Racycle "Pacemaker" project frame > about what year would it be?

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  1. #1 Posted Jan 10, 2017
    willswares1220

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    Here's a project frame, I've had for quite a long time now, packed away with other bikes. I finally unburied it and am curious what year it might be from ( 03 or 04 ?? ) It originally came with the standard Racycle fork, but I've added their spring fork that's probably 3 or 4 years newer for a different look. Serial number ( 36863 )
    I threw it together for some pics.... I know there's some experts here on the Cabe that might know!!
    Thanks!

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  2. #2 Posted Jan 11, 2017 at 3:23 AM
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    I don't believe serial numbers on these are a lot of help. Mine is a 1907 which can be dated from the model badge (Model 120). The serial # on mine is A156. Hopefully one of the Racycle experts will weigh in and maybe things like the articulated BB area tell to dating it. That fork is awesome! V/r Shawn
     
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    Thanks!
    Hopefully that Miami / Iver fork was the right choice for this frame and could have possibly been ordered as an option around that time........
    I am going to see whats left of any original paint also, under the repaint paint and primer. I prefer an original patina on my bikes.
     
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  4. #4 Posted Jan 11, 2017 at 10:26 AM
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    That is a Racycle fork. They patented and manufactured that fork. It is correct for your Pacemaker. If you can show a better picture of the engraving on the cushion, I may be able to get it really close to when it was made, also, there are three locations on the frame where a number was stamped, near the top of the cushion pivot on the main frame, on the bridge below the cushion and on the left rear dropout..... do they match and what are they,?
     
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  5. #5 Posted Jan 11, 2017 at 11:12 AM
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  6. #6 Posted Jan 11, 2017 at 12:04 PM
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    Wcben,

    I looked for numbers in those areas you stated, but couldn't find any. Maybe they're under the paint and heavy primer. I've also notice filled in holes under the paint, at the top of the head tube, just under the bearing cup. There must have been a model number plate at one time. The holes for the head badge were filled in at one time also. ( no badge ) when I got this frame....
    Sadly, years ago I had a friend replace the battered and bent seat tube ( great job ) , but he took it upon himself to heavily prime the top tube and down tube also ( not necessary ) and ~ :( ~ lightly sand away the original nickle plating on the cushion, obscuring the " Double Flexible " on both sides, etc........

    The information on the cushion is > Double Flexible - Cushion frame - Hygienic Wheel Co. - Owners - Patented - July 21-96, March 9-97, Feb 24-03, Aug 4-03 - USA

    Luckily he was a friend!!;)

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  7. #7 Posted Jan 11, 2017 at 1:18 PM
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    You never cease to amaze me Steve!:eek:
     
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    ........o_O.......Thanks!........its been a long time since I heard that.........;)
     
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  9. #9 Posted Jan 11, 2017 at 1:46 PM
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    I'd put it to very late '03 or, more likely '04, it looks like the crank hanger is the "improved" hanger that they intro'd for 04.....
     
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  11. #11 Posted Jan 11, 2017 at 3:57 PM
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    Thanks & very informative!
    It also appears you have a very nice Racycle yourself and it has a cushion assembly similar to mine. Only yours is a " Sagar ". Same company??
    A very unusual spring fork on your machine also. Have you completed the restoration on her yet?

    > The Brotherhood of Racyclists < :cool:
     
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    Sager patented the double flexible cushion then ultimately sold out to Hygenic.... that's part of how I could date yours...restoration is in process, it's been a challenge finding all of the "right" parts to say the least!
     
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  15. #15 Posted Jan 12, 2017 at 11:05 AM
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    One of the toughest parts is the outer spring in the cushion, the original in mine was fractured into five pieces.... it's not standard spring by any means... think I'm going to have to have it made.