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Early Saddle Chassis / leathers for further identification: Messinger & Supreme

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Jesse McCauley

McCauley Cycle Works
Got a few early saddles I picked up earlier today that I'm curious about.
I've recently started to endeavor to amateur-ly re-leather another TOC saddle and a guy I know had a few "old brooks" saddles and these were among them when I picked up the lot.
They are rough, and I know at least a couple members passed on them already so they may be sort've a joke but I'm a sucker for an early metal saddle pan...

The smaller of the two seems to read 'Messinger' on one side and "Junior" on the other which seems cool, I imagine not many junior leather messingers survived.

The larger with metal pan obviously reads 'Superior'

Any ideas on era / specific model of these saddles?
 

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