Alan E. Pierce
'Lil Knee Scuffer
I am most probably mistaken about the racing. The tube's are just so thin.
When I picked up the bike, it came with 2 Terry's tennis clamps in the tub of parts.
Will post cantilever pictures and info stamped on them.
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Help identify my tandem
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When I picked up the bike, it came with 2 Terry's tennis clamps in the tub of parts.
Will post cantilever pictures and info stamped on them.
Alan E. Pierce
'Lil Knee Scuffer
Unfortunately the tub with all the parts had no top and rain water would be held to it evaporated.
Alan E. Pierce
'Lil Knee Scuffer
That is the brake system, have more of the parts but only for one side.
This is the first forum I have joined. Not computer savvy along these lines. Can do a search but that is it.
How do I ask them to move it.
This is the first forum I have joined. Not computer savvy along these lines. Can do a search but that is it.
How do I ask them to move it.
dnc1
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Any chance of moving this thread to another more appropriate forum @rustjunkie, or any other moderators?
Thanks.
Thanks.
vincev
I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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Help identify my tandem | General Discussion About Old Bicycles
Need help identifying my tandem. Has hand stamped 4 digit serial number 1266. Chater Lea and Williams bottor brackets and crank. Brown seats or what is left of them components. Was in pieced when I picked it up. Front fork was chrome. Has two Terry's tennis racket clips. Has cantilever breaks...
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Archie Sturmer
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
What color are you going to paint the frame after sending to sand blast?
dnc1
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
My tandem friend got back to me with his opinion on your tandem and this is what he thinks.
Due to the fact that it has a Chater-Lea headset
he is of the opinion that your tandem was indeed built to order from the Chater-Lea Fittings catalogue.
The original owner could have ordered a set of fittings (lugs, bottom bracket, headset etc, possibly frame tubing too) and had it built up by a local workshop, or commissioned Chater-Lea to arrange all of this work and then deliver the complete frame to the original owner.
As stated before, and illustrated by the period adverts posted by @New Mexico Brant (post #26
above) , Chater-Lea didn't build frames themselves as such, but you could order a frame from them built to one of their numbered designs.
Apparently they produced two double gent's style tandems featuring your tubing configuration.
Here they are from the 1931 catalogue.....
...you could order a 'Model 14', or a 'Model 12B'.
The only difference between them is the choice of a single-sided drivetrain, or a cross-over drivetrain.
Your example has a frame designed to accommodate a single-sided drivetrain as the cut-out in the chainstay shows, and if you zoom in on the above image, you can see this illustrated.....
...from this detail I think it's reasonable to think that you have a tandem built to the Chater-Lea 'Model 12B' design.
Here are the specifications for that model.....
Still no clue as to the actual builder, and chances are we'll never know, but you have a top quality machine nonetheless.
(Images from V-CC library).
Due to the fact that it has a Chater-Lea headset
he is of the opinion that your tandem was indeed built to order from the Chater-Lea Fittings catalogue.
The original owner could have ordered a set of fittings (lugs, bottom bracket, headset etc, possibly frame tubing too) and had it built up by a local workshop, or commissioned Chater-Lea to arrange all of this work and then deliver the complete frame to the original owner.
As stated before, and illustrated by the period adverts posted by @New Mexico Brant (post #26
above) , Chater-Lea didn't build frames themselves as such, but you could order a frame from them built to one of their numbered designs.
Apparently they produced two double gent's style tandems featuring your tubing configuration.
Here they are from the 1931 catalogue.....
...you could order a 'Model 14', or a 'Model 12B'.
The only difference between them is the choice of a single-sided drivetrain, or a cross-over drivetrain.
Your example has a frame designed to accommodate a single-sided drivetrain as the cut-out in the chainstay shows, and if you zoom in on the above image, you can see this illustrated.....
...from this detail I think it's reasonable to think that you have a tandem built to the Chater-Lea 'Model 12B' design.
Here are the specifications for that model.....
Still no clue as to the actual builder, and chances are we'll never know, but you have a top quality machine nonetheless.
(Images from V-CC library).
