reminds me of the term slower than molassis,on a serious note,i found a plastic container that had a large enough diamiter to put a 26 inch rim in,but a rim in,put enough evapo-rust in to cover rim,put lid on container,works excelent,t=had to search a lot of farm supply paces to find a container with the right diamiter,some expense involve in set up but well worth it,weels come out as nice as they are ever gonna b and you can do wheels till the cows come home