Another frame to ID !

[falconer]

Sorry to take over this thread, but I have a question about my bike. S/N says 1940 or 1946. Morrow hub is dated 1940. All original bike from 2nd owner. No dropstand ears. What do you guys think?
P.S. front wheel is a place holder since the front hub blew up.View attachment 1758086

Whats the serial of this bike?

 

[MrMonark13]

Whats the serial of this bike?

Here ya go!

 

[falconer]

Here ya go! View attachment 1758186

Thanks, i have exact same frame with an F, but they say 46? I just dont have a guard or a 40 hub

 

[mrg]

I'd say both are 46's and first post wars still had the clamp on guard.

 

[MrMonark13]

I'd say both are 46's and first post wars still had the clamp on guard.

But would they have used a 1940 hub in 46? Just wondering, not trying to be rude.

 

[falconer]

View attachment 1758082

Catfish, what year is this bike?

 

[Oilit]

According tp Phil Marshall's chart, the first "F" and "G" serials were 1940. If @fordmike65's bike still had the drop stand ears in 1941 then that makes me think @mrg is right, and these are early post-war, maybe with some leftover pre-war parts. The only one pre-war CWC-built bike that didn't have the drop stand ears was the Hawthorne All American, is that correct?

 

[NBHAA]

View attachment 1758082

There should be no mysteries about the bicycle shown in the Catfish posting. It should be quite apparent, regardless of chain guard, frame ears, serial number charts, guesses, etc. etc. etc. the Cleveland Welding Company Roadmaster pictured here is obviously a postwar Model 226-WH. These came with a Shockmaster fork with non-barrel springs, barrel-light rear carrier (with electric brake light/rail light), ball headlight, ND front brake. Just as you see it here. This model was intended for use with Whizzer motor kits (thus the model name).

Obviously it never got Whizzer-ized. Some of these never got motors and were simply used as heavy-duty industrial bicycles or paperboy bicycles.

Model 226-WH was special and while it shared various components with other Roadmasters, it is not a good idea to use it as a comparison for any normal CWC regular bicycle, prewar or postwar.

 

[Rattman13]

Early 1946 for sure. No drop stand tabs, no CW, and no rear chainguard hole.

 

[Oilit]

There should be no mysteries about the bicycle shown in the Catfish posting. It should be quite apparent, regardless of chain guard, frame ears, serial number charts, guesses, etc. etc. etc. the Cleveland Welding Company Roadmaster pictured here is obviously a postwar Model 226-WH. These came with a Shockmaster fork with non-barrel springs, barrel-light rear carrier (with electric brake light/rail light), ball headlight, ND front brake. Just as you see it here. This model was intended for use with Whizzer motor kits (thus the model name).

Obviously it never got Whizzer-ized. Some of these never got motors and were simply used as heavy-duty industrial bicycles or paperboy bicycles.

Model 226-WH was special and while it shared various components with other Roadmasters, it is not a good idea to use it as a comparison for any normal CWC regular bicycle, prewar or postwar.

Now that you mention it, it has heavy gauge spokes too. I missed that the first time. Thanks, that makes sense!