Getting a Date on Model 210 Spring Fork Columbia

[New Mexico Brant]

When I bought this bicycle it was sold to me as a 1912. Is this correct? The model number is 210 per the badge. The serial number has a D over the number: 38310 with a P underneath.

My plan is to is it now with the 1914 Wall Autocycle.

Thank you for any help.

 

[cyclingday]

Fabulous, machine!

 

[Barnegatbicycles]

210 is a 1912 Columbia special

 

[MrColumbia]

From the Columbia 1912 catalog.

 

[chitown]

Amazing machine!
When I saw the autocycle, I instantly thought of the Thomas Kempland Glass Plate collection & Mr Eike with his Columbia, though he had a Smith Motor Wheel.

 

[New Mexico Brant]

When I saw the autocycle, I instantly thought of the Thomas Kempland Glass Plate collection & Mr Eike with his Columbia, though he had a Smith Motor Wheel.

Wow! By mid-1917 he had that thing completely tricked-out! Besides the Smith, the largest model Klaxon made for two wheels, and a huge carbide generator powered motorcycle headlamp! Also an Ecco rear buddy seat rack and he certainly isn't messing around with just any hanging bag tool pouch!

Thank you everyone for your contributions and information.

 

[chitown]

he had that thing completely tricked-out!

The bonus of having your own shop!

 

[Mercian]

Hi Brant, @New Mexico Brant

I think D38310P indicates a 1913 Pope built bicycle. My reasoning is at post 11 here: https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/odd-duck-chinook-from-portland-or.163149/page-2

I was considering @redline1968 's bike E14618P at the time.

Incidentally, since it's a British motor (a product of Rover), I'm guessing the registration number SU334 is also british (I hope you have the V5 registration document if so, since this has a value in itself).

SU was originally a scottish number, from Kincardineshire, and issued at first from Jan 1904 to 1 August 1961, when the UK registration system changed.

At some point in the late 1970's, the licensing authority in the UK started to issue 'Age related numbers', or appropriate registrations to verifably old vehicles that had lost their registration, or been imported. Since Kincardineshire was one of the least used series, their were lots of spare numbers, so the series was continued again through the 1980's until it ran out.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[redline1968]

It's a I not a d in the serial numbers..

Hi Brant, @New Mexico Brant

I think D38310P indicates a 1913 Pope built bicycle. My reasoning is at post 11 here: https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/odd-duck-chinook-from-portland-or.163149/page-2

I was considering @redline1968 's bike E14618P at the time.

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Incidentally, since it's a British motor (a product of Rover), I'm guessing the registration number SU334 is also british (I hope you have the V5 registration document if so, since this has a value in itself).

SU was originally a scottish number, from Kincardineshire, and issued at first from Jan 1904 to 1 August 1961, when the UK registration system changed.

At some point in the late 1970's, the licensing authority in the UK started to issue 'Age related numbers', or appropriate registrations to verifably old vehicles that had lost their registration, or been imported. Since Kincardineshire was one of the least used series, their were lots of spare numbers, so the series was continued again through the 1980's until it ran out.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[Mercian]

Hi @redline1968

Thanks for your thoughts, but with absolute respect, it is a D.

I agree it's been stamped a little harder on the bottom, always difficult when stamping on a curved surface.

Best Regards,

Adrian