Another little green Pierce

[C M Gerlach]

Chris these are in my collection they are different interesting

Rick, when you get a chance I'd like to see the carmine and check the number.
maybe compare frames, they are similar.
I had not realized you had acquired it.
I love that one.
Thanks.

 

[New York Pope]

Cool I’ll be here all next three days just call I’ll show you

 

[JBone]

Great looking bicycles, all of them, perfect balance and proportion...

 

[SKPC]

Cool bike. The Angola Pierce/Emblem motos that I have seen over the years are a varied lot of designs, many and varied, as if they were trying something different or new for fun. This is the 1st one of this style I have seen, but it does not surprise me. I know that Emblem made more variants on the Moto frames than any other maker. Different main frame tube sizes, different top tube diameters, bends, angles, and distances between, not necessarily making any sense. Streamline frames also pop up now and again from Emblem. I do not believe the top bar is bent, but instead a welders' design feature....can we see the serial number on the BB? 300K-400K? Your frame has the real-deal Pierce style forged drops and fairly good paint..

 

[C M Gerlach]

Cool bike. The Angola Pierce/Emblem motos that I have seen over the years are a varied lot of designs, many and varied, as if they were trying something different or new for fun. This is the 1st one of this style I have seen, but it does not surprise me. I know that Emblem made more variants on the Moto frames than any other maker. Different main frame tube sizes, different top tube diameters, bends, angles, and distances between, not necessarily making any sense. Streamline frames also pop up now and again from Emblem. I do not believe the top bar is bent, but instead a welders' design feature....can we see the serial number on the BB? 300K-400K? Your frame has the real-deal Pierce style forged drops and fairly good paint..
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Interesting and true observations, and I previously stated "certainly not factory" which I can't really say. As I stated the fork,and headtube lack the damage I would associate with this bend, also no significant paint damage in the area of the bend.

serial is 200000 range and is stamped on rear dropout...I usually associate that location to late Buffalo built, but provided the headbadge was not changed this is an early angola build before moving stamping to bottom bracket.

this is the boys little green serial 188000 late buffalo build.

and a picture of a streamline as you mentioned.
I have several emblem built and they all vary, later frames have specific trumpet joints....this one does not.

 

[SKPC]

Yes, good serial number on dropout makes it a Pierce "Buffalo" built bike.. @piercer_99 ?

 

[C M Gerlach]

With all the work done here by past and present members,@bluestreak...etc., I still have questions about pierce serial numbers, particularly at the pierce/emblem takeover transition.......and emblem numbers pre 1918......someday I'll do some research.

 

[C M Gerlach]

Yes, good serial number on dropout makes it a Pierce "Buffalo" built bike.. @piercer_99 ?

I may take some measurements and make a drawing as you have done as well.....interesting little bike for sure.

 

[C M Gerlach]

@Blue Streak