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White walls are a little darker than above pics. Apologies. Tires in great shape though. Headbadge below.

I have decided to sell my 1938 Cleveland Welding Company 3-Gill. This is a 100% complete original bike with very rare "reverse" paint scheme. Original paint, original seat, original tank and light, original reflector. Steering lock (no key). Comes with the original light and switch hardware...

Stunning, I love it!

Yes, very cool

Here's a link to my '41 Westfield. SN: 4H F86189 http://thecabe.com/forum/threads/1941-westfield-restoration-complete.34586/

Really nice.

Thank you. Are they poorly constructed and wobbly, or flimsy? Is the folding joint weak or adequate? I'm thinking of picking one up pretty cheap, but it needs some work. And I'd like to be able to actually use it from the back of my car on occasion.

Does anyone know much about these old bikes? Junk? Possibly good daily rider and folding bike for a trunk? Thanks! Edit: Brevettato means "Patented" in Italian, so that isn't the name of the bike apparently!

What is this worth? Is this a unique bike or just junk? Could this be a good daily rider to put in my trunk? I've never heard of this bike before. http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&toolid=10001&campid=5335809022&icep_item=222116875124

No problem, good luck. Newer or resto'd badges can be found!

Heres a link to my restored '41 Westfield. There is a pic of the appropriate badge, though it's old and worn. I have since replaced it with a nice one, but hopefully you can get the idea. http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?34586-1941-Westfield-Restoration-Complete!&highlight=Westfield

I thought ALL Jaguars were 3-speeds. Wondering if it's TRUELY a Jag. Maybe someone with more info can help on that.

What's right, what's wrong with this bike? Can someone enlighten me a little. I'm contemplating it...

Thanks Hotrod, I'll keep that in mind.

I am looking for a 1/2" pitch rear cog for a ND rear hub. 20 tooth. Thanks!

Thanks again guys. I'm already looking for a new (modern) chain and will pull that rear cog too...and use it for a coaster or Chinese throwing star or something. Yeah the chain on the chainring (as some smart person above suggested) was the dead giveaway. I couldn't believe how much the chain...

Will a new modern chain suffice for this application? 1/2 pitch, 3/16 width. Maybe chrome! I don't think the "new" Westfield chain I have is going to be long enough...

Okay, I think I found the issue. Thanks guys! See the pics below. The old and tired chain has indeed stretched and I've got some shark finning rear sprocket issues too. The current chain is 56" w/o master link, (1/2 pitch) and has 54 links w/o the master link. The rear sprocket is also a...

Awesome guys! I think you may be right. The chain IS OG and 74 years old. I will measure it and check link spacing and report back. It's not a skip-tooth, but is the wider style chain the Westfield used on their bikes during that era. It is more of a pop pop...NOT a clack clack or metallic...

The chainring is AN original part. I had it chromed during restoration. It does have a slight wobble to it...very slight. I will also add, that I don't feel anything through the pedals when pedaling hard. If I did, I would think chain or rear hub, but I don't feel anything. No chugging or...

Thanks for helping me try to diagnose this guys. I appreciate it. Though it does appear that I have just about every possible part of the drivetrain listed above as the culprit! :confused:;) Let me see if I can answer a few of the questions above. - The Chainring is not original. The Chain...

Has anyone ever experienced that? My '41 Westfield makes a pop pop pop sound when pedaling hard. It's quiet when pedaling lightly. Yesterday I replaced the pedals from another bike, thinking the pedal bearings were acting up. That wasn't it, she still did it. So I removed the chain...

Nice job, sweet bike!

Any news on the front fender? What tires come on the bike? You have a few pictured. Thanks.

I like shiney bikes! Nice work!

Way cool find! Jealous!

My '41 Westfield is a 20" frame, as you know most frames are 18". They can be found, but it can be difficult. This one with the larger frame seems to "fit" better for a daily rider. http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?34586-1941-Westfield-Restoration-Complete!

Looking good!!!

I'm looking too. Maybe a project bike, possibly just a frame. PM me if you know of any that can get me started. Thanks.

Really nice work! I do love restored rides!

Nice shots, they look great together. I need to get mine out while the weather is good!

Really nice!

Do you have a few more pics? I would think it MUST be on the BB, or maybe the chain stay perhaps.

I'm in the Vegas area, let me know if you need any assistance.

Sweet bike, nice score!

Pretty sure they always had fenders. There were balloon tire models (more rare) and skinny tire versions. Looks like maybe you have a balloon tire example?

E is 1940 I believe.

Great job on the frame, looks awesome! Looking forward to more pics!

Glad you're okay!

Good looking Westfield!

Yours is a Murray built Elgin (vice the Westfield built Elgin). Value is a tough one. As is, it could bring $300, maybe $500/$600 to the right buyer...but that's pushing it. It does appear to be complete, straight, and the paint and chrome looks average. I haven't seen many war-time...

I get my paint from the shop that Rick uses. Have you seen his prices for restos!!! Insane! They also bring their bicycle work to Al in Bike World on Rainbow. Rick doesn't touch the bicycles, they farm them out to the pros. I've seen Al working on Rick's black Schwinn for a customer.

Cool pics, great bikes!

My S/A 3 speed Jaguar is pretty silky smooth. Bout the same as my single speeds...maybe it's a crank arm length thing?

Nice job! I love shiny bikes!

http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?43759-1938-Elgin-Rear-Hub-problem

http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?35120-Elgin-Musselman-Rear-Hub-Guts-Needed&highlight=rear I had the same problem (see above) and needed this internal part. Check all your bearings and races, mine were shot. Good Luck!

Nice work, dig it!

I use 2-3 spoonfuls per gallon. Post dip, no issues. You gott rinse the parts really well and for some time after the dip, but years later I have zero probs. especially if you paint and/or wax the part to offer it protection. You can reuse the OA too, it works for a while until it gets...