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Totally agree with that. Powder coating never really looks the part in vintage bike frame painting, IMHO. I've seen that phenomenon where paint shops turn away tubular frames.
Kevin
LOTS of Pro bikes were red.....but that's not written in stone. I never had a bike painted....they say because of the round tubing, nothing could be harder for consistent coating. I hate painting anything anyway, so it's moot.
Kevin
Ya gotta wonder why it was repainted. Maybe they wanted a color change, maybe there was rust, or maybe they're covering up paint damage. Sometimes if the prep work was bad, you can get back to the original paint. Either way, it's labor-intensive with a potentially dubious outcome.
You didn't...
Yes they are, but they want original paint and kit. However as far as kit....the SB
Yes, but they want the original paint and kit. As far as the SBDU bikes, they were often bought as fit-to-body frames and then the racers put on their own kits. They vary greatly in pricing UNLESS it was owned...
Raleigh Grand Prix and Super Course, while nice bikes in and of themselves were a dime a dozen in the used market. Now, when you get to the Competition /GS, the International and above, the prices have been steadily rising over the last ten yrs.
The International although with a wonderfully...
There seems to be no limit in price to Raleigh SBDU bikes that were raced or put together to be raced. I long since woke up from the dream of owning one. They have been steadily climbing for years now in price. I can remember way back when $1,000 would pretty much get you what you wanted.....now...
I think so too...they look for an account that's not used much and is easily hackable. Imagine the owner's surprise when they go in and see what's done to their account!
Kevin
I agree with Mike's original posting pretty much. But.....some of us have many hobbies...Aspergers has cursed me with the need to have many hobbies. So in my life, everything is a trade-off of some kind. My chances of being there at the right time and doing infinite research are low. Still, I...
Here are the two bikes. B-17 on the LeTour and non-original alloy rims....different freewheel than OE Schwinn.
Raleigh has the wrong seat of course....I have another B-17. I just like B-17s whether they are original or not I use them. Everything else looks OE to me. I have the original...
Anything glued has a half-life...like Uranium. What that will be is determined by several variables....probably impossible to determine or calculate. I'd always be waiting for the 'other shoe' to drop if riding it. But this is fascinating nonetheless!
Kevin
The SC is usually an affordable nice road bike resurrected(notice I didn't say 'restored'). Always a good idea to string the bike before resurrecting....ya never know what kinda life they had. I have a green one like in the pics down in the basement. I bought it from a druggie. I haven't gotten...
29lbs on the '74 LeTour with non-stock alloy wheels....large Panasonic frame. WO/kickstand
23lbs on the '80 Raleigh Competition GS......bone stock. W/Kickstand.
I gotta get that GS on the road....what a sweetheart bike! I'm sure the '70s/'80s Raleigh SBDU Pro racers were much lighter yet...
Tracking and a sig will cover you. I have been down this road on both sides of the fence. If the seller can prove he sent the package to the buyer and got a sig, you're pretty much done if you're trying to scam him for no item delivered. Two times I had stuff sent to me that I never received...
OK. I have the LeTour hooked up to my trainer for the winter....easy enough to detach and the Raleigh GS is down in the basement. Have scale, will travel......
Kevin
I could weigh my first-year-of-the-LeTour, Panasonic frame 10spd......but it's not stock. I don't know if we've specified that the bikes in the chart have to be stock? I just swapped out the steel rims for aluminum and it's the large frame too.
I see there's a Raleigh International in there. I...
It's a good argument actually, that can be made for any hobby of notoriety. Parts that sit on a shelf or in a bin that you die with don't do anything for the hobby until the family puts them back into circulation. And if you're older, you may not live long enough waiting to see that happen.
It...
As suggested, borrow a bore scope or whatever to look way inside the frame. If you see a lot of rust in there, the frame is compromised and not safe. Like riding a pretzel.
Kevin
Carbon steels are really strong but can rust badly if not primed and paint sealed properly. Chromium and Nickle (Ni) are two biggies in 'stainless steel' production.
I have also seen powder coating where there was tremendous rust on the parts where the paint flaked off. Agreed, it's all in the...
We don't use salt in WA state, especially in the eastern part where I live. Coupled with the semi-arid climate, cars/bikes pretty much just surface rust if any. However, one state over in Oregon, which you assume would be full of environmental Nazis....they use something on their passes that...
I have seen this before in high-moisture climates. A weakness in the paint allowed a section to completely rust/pit....while the paint around that still looks OK. That white you're seeing could be the chemical calcium process of the first stages of rust with the paint/metal.
Kevin
There are endless references in NA that are technically erroneous. Try as you might, you can't 'fix' that. Pyrex glass(poor Anchor Hocking dealing with that), Crescent wrenches, canister vacuums(actually are 'tanks'), Channel locks, Vise Grips, Crane valves(when they are not), still saying...
I don't think it's a 'bad idea', but a crap shoot. If you don't mind the seller possibly being an aggressive conman or conversely, someone who wants to know and will thank you. I look at it like energy spent....is this a battle you choose to be involved in(?).
You can't fix 'stupid' or conmen...
Great advice overall from someone who has 'been there'. In my town, there are about 38,000 people. We have two bike shops. One has been here forever and in a family of manipulative grumps. The other is an 'upstart' downtown where the tourists thrive. There's even a Brit guy involved in that...
Good point.....I'm not very tolerant of a buyer who has WAY more money in his pocket than the item is selling for. Or he gives me a lecture about 'hard times', but at the end of the negotiation, he pulls out a wad that would choke an elephant. In people like that, it's 'the game' of beating you...
Other than the human masochistic part of bickering/dickering, set a reasonable price in your mind of the MAXIMUM that you're willing to pay, and don't waver. Same with a seller....set a price in your mind of the MINIMUM that you're willing to take for your item(s). And if you take the minimum as...
If I tell locals I collect bicycles, they're 'OK' with it(not that I should care). But if I tell them I collect vacuums, I see their fingers hovering over the 911 portion on their phone. The conversation could go any way at that point...sometimes it's better to walk away because a few times it's...
The 'dirty' secret is that girls mature faster/earlier than boys the same age. Best not to challenge them too much physically if you're a boy until you start stroking into puberty.
Kevin
I'm not a huge fan of pulling around canister/shop-vac-type units inside a home......but it's whatever you're accustomed to. The British sell one called a 'Henry' that is a perennial favorite.....much smaller than the Electrolux CB pictured.....and plastic.
Kevin
That actually is very RARE.... I have ONE unrestored. That is by definition a 'canister' vac. I have the PN too, but not those specific floor attachments.....also very rare with the white insert. Dealer add-on vinyl hose with external cord. They did not do those colors the same way for the tank...
Thank you...and not even polished up, languishing in a basement for over 8 yrs. Some say 'The last true Electrolux tank'. The wheels are a CURSE.....so easy to break.
Kevin
Oh, what the heck! Original power nozzle, non-original hose(better hose), and if you look carefully, a broken front wheel. Have lots of replacement wheels but don't use this vac anymore. Some of the early models didn't have an electric port for the PN....dealer could add one. And they moved from...
Yep, 'G' bronze model; fabric matching hose, slightly improved motor(more power). Motor was to continue into the 70's even up to and including the Golden Jubilee.
Hoses usually leak with age...until they get into vinyl and/or vinyl replacement. Power Nozzle(not pictured) lasts forever unless...
That was a 'G' then if it was a 60's model and the first model with a PN(power nozzle). The first PNs had a plastic tube, but they often broke so Electrolux upgraded to a metal tube. The 'Gs' started in a 'Jetson' Green(my term)....actually called an 'aqua green'. Then later to 'bronze'. The...
That's me I guess....never heard an Electrolux called a "Beater Bar Power Mate" and I've seen most of the advertising lit of the day....including Owner's Manuals from that period. If it was a 60's Electrolux, it was a 'G', unless we're talking about uprights, which I know nothing about in...
Of course not! I knew many females who HATED the design of a 'girl's bike'. They liked the lines and utility of a boy's bike. I don't know what that was like with a skirt on, however?
I bet serious girl riders mostly defected to boy's bikes at some point....I don't ever remember seeing a female...
They always had that appeal....so much noise = powerful cleaning, right(?)....lol. I loved them too even into college. But they lacked the suction to bag all the crap the beater bar was dredging/flipping up. Pitted against like a Royal that suctioned itself to the carpet, well, there was no...
Yeah, I know what you wrote....got it. The sales tax is a state thing and originally about seven states participated. I don't know how many now.
eBay now is roughly 17% of the seller's sold price for their fees. Of course, they bought PayPal some yrs back too.
Kevin
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