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    Hawthorne Duralium questions

    Thanks for reminding me- I completely forgot to post an update to this. After kroiling the parts I was able to turn the crank and wheels. I started to steel wool it and decided to give up and sent it back to my father in law. It was just too far beyond my abilities, and I would’ve ended up...
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    Do You Want To Play What,s In The Box ????

    Wow where did you get that blue comforter with the beautiful pattern!?
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    Do You Want To Play What,s In The Box ????

    Looks like a 46 Rollthorne dikfer
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    Should We Continue (or Stop) Looking for Serial Numbers and Letters?

    Whatever the original intent- this thread became a referendum on whether or not members were going to continue to be polite and cordial towards anyone suggesting that their efforts are a waste of time. That’s the problem that comes with deeming yourself the go-to source for information. If...
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    Should We Continue (or Stop) Looking for Serial Numbers and Letters?

    It’s never good to see a member leave, and I think we all enjoy additional opinions/factual input on the subject of bicycles. You obviously dedicate a lot of time and have a wealth of knowledge about this hobby. But do you have to enter every thread as if you’ve got the only lighter in a...
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    Need some info on this ballooner

    Spitfire? I only throw out my minimal knowledge bc I’ve got a 1954 26” ladies that looks so similar, color and everything
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    Possible Elgin Victory found and what to do with it?

    I’m into many hobbies and a member of many forums and he consistently has the most unnecessarily pedantic and wack-a-doodle responses to posts that I’ve seen ever seen.
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    D.P. Harris serial number Montgomery Wards Hawthorne.

    I think it’s a CWC frame. Didn’t Snyder use the reverse year (if the first two digits were 14 then it would be a 41), and the Excelsior frames had an E or EH stamped above the serial#? Maybe that was only after 1940. That frame screams late 30s and no later than 39
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    Identifying ( another) cycle truck

    Disagree. No way it should be left in such poor condition. Why preserve its patina and history? Strip it down and powdercoat the whole thing. Maybe add whitewalls, too. Add some accessories like chrome mirrors, and a vintage old-timey sign to it and it’s a hit at the next show! It will be super...
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    1951 schwinn

    Lucky guy! That’s an awesome grab. Spitfire, perhaps?
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    Information needed for new Wards Hawthorne aluminum project

    Not sure if a girls was any different, but I was in possession of a boys (1937 or 1938) last year and it was all original, equipped with that same guard. And yours has the light, nice! ETA: yours actually has that original seat, too. The one I had looks to have a different seat. Yours is...
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    A Proud New Ballooner Owner-- A Pre-War (Maybe?) Hawthorne

    My 41 Hawthorne (Snyder) came with that chainring, I think it’s fairly common for the prewar Hawthornes. I think it’s called the comet chainring?? I don’t recall.
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    Newest addition 55 schwinn spitfire.

    Sweet looking bike. I love the economy level rides
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    Memory Lane and Ann Arbor aka Monroe Vendors: A Plea...

    So you’re in the business of losing money? Because if your buying strategy=selling strategy it seems to me that you are. Hear me out- I’m not here to discuss negotiations or game theory or price discrimination with you, or supply and demand or whatever else you want to delve into. You can do...
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    Memory Lane and Ann Arbor aka Monroe Vendors: A Plea...

    Okay, if you say so. Again, I’m not doubting your experience, and if you and your swap meet buddies have had success with that technique then more power to you. But I’ve been to plenty of swap meets where the prices are marked and that obviously works for them, and I think there’s a sizable...
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    Memory Lane and Ann Arbor aka Monroe Vendors: A Plea...

    So the store displays the price for their customers- my point exactly! We agree on that. And I don’t doubt you have plenty of experience with swap meets. You’ve probably forgotten more about bicycles than I’ll ever know. What is important is the distinction between what you have made and what...
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    Memory Lane and Ann Arbor aka Monroe Vendors: A Plea...

    Thank you. I would add to that perhaps saying to yourself “what do I want for this?” And then getting out some stickers and writing said price down on them. Pretty much every place you have ever shopped at uses this successful technique
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    Memory Lane and Ann Arbor aka Monroe Vendors: A Plea...

    I hope no one takes what I’m saying as criticism of their sales technique. I suppose you could view it as that, but the way I see it, the OP posted what you could call free customer feedback. The guy has money to spend and is practically begging you to make it easier for him to give you his...
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    Memory Lane and Ann Arbor aka Monroe Vendors: A Plea...

    Agreed. Although in one of the other swap meet threads someone asked what one of the bicycles in the picture was priced at and evidently it was not for sale. Display only, I guess
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    Memory Lane and Ann Arbor aka Monroe Vendors: A Plea...

    I have to agree with the OP on this one. Now, to be fair, most of the small swap meets tend to be social gatherings with the peripheral benefit of making a bit of money. However, many people have an idea of what they want to spend and would just like to see a price and pay it. If you are content...
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    55 Spitfire

    Wow that bike has lived a full life. Looks like there are many more miles to be had. Honestly the paint looks awesome for how well used it is. Seems like being used kept it better than if if sat. I recently inherited the ladies version of this (54), same color and everything and it sat for years...
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    Foothill Flyers/Overtown Brewing Vintage Bicycle Swap/Show/Ride Saturday April 9th 2022

    Shame I missed this. Had to attend a bday party but I’ll make it next time. What fun! I def would have made room for some tires, fenders and chains. The green Columbia would’ve been tempting, as well. Does that Brewery really dedicate that much space to displaying bicycles? If so, that’s pretty...
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    Strangest thing you have seen while riding?

    The dust off of that seagull had to be a combination of the nastiest stuff. You probably have a great immune system, now!
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    Strangest thing you have seen while riding?

    With the price of food going up I’m surprised that rotisserie chicken didn’t get picked up
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    Strangest thing you have seen while riding?

    See I’m always scared of this happening, especially in the springtime
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    Strangest thing you have seen while riding?

    Damn. Sounds almost spiritually transcendent or something. Nice!
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    Strangest thing you have seen while riding?

    You all must have some serious miles under your pedals (collectively) so I imagine you have seen or experienced some of the weirdest things out there. I was reminded of some of the odd things I’ve observed while out on the bicycle, and I’m sure that I don’t ride nearly as much as most of you...
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    Skip Tooth Chain

    When my skiptooth chain busted a link I was able to purchase a couple of new masters from eBay for maybe $12. I kept the extra in the tank for the same reasons as you but last week I just decided to convert to 1/2” pitch chain. New and used skiptooth chains are very expensive and I figured since...
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    Got it back on the bike! I’ll be glad to convert over to 1/2” pitch chain, too. I’ll probably use the skiptooth from this bike on the ladies Schwinn Spitfire that I plan on repairing. Thanks for all of your help, folks. Now I need to widen the holes on the rear fender braces since they don’t fit...
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    Thanks for this. I’ve trued it up and only two spokes have protrusions, and only by barely a mm, if even that. I’ll grind them flat
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    Thanks for the advice. I’ve checked my lacing and it’s good. I think these spokes are just a bit long but should work out. I remember removing the old ND hub from this earlier today and it was trued up fine but didn’t take many turns for tension to break on those spokes. I get the feeling that...
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    Awesome, thanks! I’ll keep you in mind for this and future projects
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    Thanks. I’ll try it and see how it goes
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    They are definitely laced 4. I’m not sure if these are 10 5/8” spokes. That was a while ago and I had these new spokes in a box and used them and they worked. I removed the original spokes that came on the wheel (installed with the ND) years ago. They were junk so I cut them and tossed them...
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    That was another concern- that perhaps the nipples ran out of threads for the spoke.
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    No not yet. When they stopped I stopped. Almost all of them are seated against the rim but I’d say another 2-3mm max should get it trued up
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    They’re not tightened completely because some of them would stop tightening (bottom out in the nipple) once the top of the spoke sat flush in the slot. When the ND was installed I didn’t encounter this issue because it tightened up fully before reaching that point. I didn’t realize I just needed...
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    Here’s a pic of them. Once they bottomed out on the spoke (or sat flush) I figured that was that and I needed to buy shorter ones. I guess if tightening through the top of the nipple and cutting it off is kosher I can easily do that.
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    Why didn’t I think of that? That’s too easy! I’d rather have a more complicated and expensive answer, lol. Thanks I think this should work
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    Spokes too long after new hub install

    I removed the ND model D from my 41 Hawthorne and installed a SA S2C in its place. The flange on this thing is much wider than the old ND hub and despite lacing it cross 4 they come up just slightly too long. Is there a way of fixing this without having to tear it all down and relace with...
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    Be Careful When Riding Out There, Especially in Cali! No Bull!

    I guess this means that cyclists and matadors now have more than just spandex uniforms in common
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    Inherited an older (1950’s?) Spitfire

    Thank you. I agree, to some extent. I’ve always been of the opinion that-for me at least- it’s all dependent upon the circumstances. I think with this bicycle, considering my end goal, I’m going to attempt to do just that and preserve what is here. If the end result is not to my liking I may...
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    Hawthorne Duralium questions

    Thanks! I’ll be sure to keep this in mind once I figure out what/when/if I’m going to do this bicycle
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    Inherited an older (1950’s?) Spitfire

    Can’t argue with this reasoning. I appreciate the perspective. Definitely food for thought. I think for now I’m going to work on all of the other parts of the bicycle and get them ready to reinstall for whenever I figure out what to do with the original painted pieces. I may just preserve as is...
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    Inherited an older (1950’s?) Spitfire

    Thanks! Sounds like mine was found in almost the same condition. I’m keeping this one and rebuilding it for the wife so she can cruise with me That’s kind of what I’m leaning towards. I’ve completely stripped it down to the frame and individual parts and tbh after looking at it all, I think...
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    Inherited an older (1950’s?) Spitfire

    This is good to know. I looked at the yellow bike you restored and it looks very well done-certainly promising to me since the condition of the paint isn’t so good. I already know I need to OA bath the other bicycle so I can strip this down and try it as well. I was planning on giving the rims...
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    Inherited an older (1950’s?) Spitfire

    Hey that’s actually an idea I can put to use. Looks like you all packed the essentials. Thanks!
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