‘53 Monark Silver King Rocket pricing

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1motime

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 7, 2019
899
65
El Segundo, CA
I am missing something. Please educate me. Silverking? It's a Rocket. I know Silverking is a proud old Monark name but this?
 

Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
18,708
Evans, GA
I am missing something. Please educate me. Silverking? It's a Rocket. I know Silverking is a proud old Monark name but this?
Generally speaking the "Rocket" was a lower tier model in the Monark line-up. These bikes seem to be something of an anomaly in that regard. @twinflight was this model officially called the "Deluxe Rocket"? Any original literature for this model? V/r Shawn
 

twinflight

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 13, 2017
264
Minnesota, United States
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Generally speaking the "Rocket" was a lower tier model in the Monark line-up. These bikes seem to be something of an anomaly in that regard. @twinflight was this model officially called the "Deluxe Rocket"? Any original literature for this model? V/r Shawn
Yes, Deluxe Rocket. There’s very little on it. I’ve spent hours looking for info and history. There are many Rockets out there but they lack the chrome on the tank.

FWIW, I’ve withdrawn the sale. It’s just too cool to sell.


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1motime

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 7, 2019
899
65
El Segundo, CA
Thanks everyone. I am ignorant about a lot of things but never heard of a '50's Monark bike called a Silverking. I had several Monarks, Rockets, and Firestone versions. Still have boys and girls 20" Super Cruisers. Never have seen this tank with the shrouds, i guess they are rare. Wondering what the price difference was between top of line Monark and top of line Rocket. Styling is obviously a difference. The current asking price on this is what? Or is this an appraisal thread?
 

twinflight

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 13, 2017
264
Minnesota, United States
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Appraisal thread. There has never been a sale of a Deluxe Rocket on eBay. The only sale i know of was on here some time ago. I was initially going to sell it but I’ve since changed my mind. The cool factor is too great to give up.

As Freqman1 mentioned there’s a difference between rare and desirable when determining value. About the only way to see what something this rare is worth is to put it up for auction.



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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
18,708
Evans, GA
Thanks everyone. I am ignorant about a lot of things but never heard of a '50's Monark bike called a Silverking. I had several Monarks, Rockets, and Firestone versions. Still have boys and girls 20" Super Cruisers. Never have seen this tank with the shrouds, i guess they are rare. Wondering what the price difference was between top of line Monark and top of line Rocket. Styling is obviously a difference. The current asking price on this is what? Or is this an appraisal thread?
The name of the company was Monark Silver King Co. Inc. Many of there early bikes were made of aluminum and were called "Silver Kings". The so called 'Hex Tube' (Model 41) officially was referred to as a Silver King. The difference between the post war Super Deluxe (or its variants) and the Rocket was equipment such as seat, pedals, rack, etc... V/r Shawn
 

razinhellcustomz

I live for the CABE
May 28, 2018
1,167
60
kiel wisconsin
Now that’s it’s cleaned and tuned up and having ridden it I’m having second thoughts on selling it. How often do you come upon a well preserved original Silver King?


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That's totally up to you. You should probably just sell it if you can find a big enough SUCKER to pay up!!
 

1motime

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 7, 2019
899
65
El Segundo, CA
The name of the company was Monark Silver King Co. Inc. Many of there early bikes were made of aluminum and were called "Silver Kings". The so called 'Hex Tube' (Model 41) officially was referred to as a Silver King. The difference between the post war Super Deluxe (or its variants) and the Rocket was equipment such as seat, pedals, rack, etc... V/r Shawn
Thank you. I have and do own, post war Monarks, Rockets, and Firestones. Had a couple of aluminum Silver Kings which looking back did nothing for me personally. the Rockets I owned were the single springer rather than the base model. I was just curious to know what was the incentive to buy a top of the line Rocket over a top of the line Monark (Super Deluxe). Price? Or just the retail outlets that were offering bikes? Monark Super Deluxe is a Firestone Super Cruiser. Simpler times with simpler decisions to make. My other question about the purpose of the original thread was answered. Appraisal. List it here on CABE or through it into E-bay. If it sells and gets paid for that is the value.
 

1motime

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 7, 2019
899
65
El Segundo, CA
That's totally up to you. You should probably just sell it if you can find a big enough SUCKER to pay up!!
What is, was, is the asking price on this thing? Don't worry about him finding one big enough. They are born everyday!
 
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Balloonatic

I live for the CABE
May 26, 2011
1,186
Altadena, CA
Please forgive me, I'm way late to the party here... I was sorry to see this bike cleaned up, despite what a good job the seller did.

I wanted this bike for myself immediately when I saw the as found photos of it. Much of that allure was the idea of cleaning and fixing it up myself, or having the choice to leave it exactly as found. Had I discovered this thread before the seller did anything to it, my addition to the conversation would have been - if you're going to sell the bike, then leave it completely as found and let the new owner have the utter and abject joy of cleaning and tinkering with it himself if he (or she) so chooses. Once you clean it, or alter it from that as found, original state, you've taken away age and patina that cannot be put back, and robbed the new owner of the choice.

I would have paid much more for this bike before it was cleaned than after, probably double. 90% of that bike's value to me was the as found, undisturbed condition. I suspect that was the allure to many other collectors as well. Ultimately, it appears to have dawned on the seller himself that the fun is in the making it his own as he's decided to keep it.

It should be a cautionary tale to others who find original bikes like this; decide if you're going to sell or keep. If you're going to keep it, do whatever you want with it. But if you're going to sell and want to preserve the value to others, leave it completely alone, and as found. Condition is where all the value usually resides for me. I would have left this bike exactly as found, missing the top of the light even, and paid a bunch for the privilege.. I wish I had seen it when it was first posted, I would have... well woulda, coulda, shoulda.
 

Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
18,708
Evans, GA
Thank you. I have and do own, post war Monarks, Rockets, and Firestones. Had a couple of aluminum Silver Kings which looking back did nothing for me personally. the Rockets I owned were the single springer rather than the base model. I was just curious to know what was the incentive to buy a top of the line Rocket over a top of the line Monark (Super Deluxe). Price? Or just the retail outlets that were offering bikes? Monark Super Deluxe is a Firestone Super Cruiser. Simpler times with simpler decisions to make. My other question about the purpose of the original thread was answered. Appraisal. List it here on CABE or through it into E-bay. If it sells and gets paid for that is the value.
The Super Deluxe, Firestone Super Cruiser, Cycle King, Holiday, etc.. were all the same bike and equipped similarly with different color schemes, graphics, and maybe badge depending. The Rocket was the next tier down and generally did not have the better pedals, seat, rack, etc... as the top tier bikes. The selling point was having top-of-the-line much like a full boogie Autocycle over a Motorbike. BTW the OP did put a price on it https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/1953-monark-silver-king-rocket.160451/#post-1089337 V/r Shawn
 

twinflight

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 13, 2017
264
Minnesota, United States
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Please forgive me, I'm way late to the party here... I was sorry to see this bike cleaned up, despite what a good job the seller did.

I wanted this bike for myself immediately when I saw the as found photos of it. Much of that allure was the idea of cleaning and fixing it up myself, or having the choice to leave it exactly as found. Had I discovered this thread before the seller did anything to it, my addition to the conversation would have been - if you're going to sell the bike, then leave it completely as found and let the new owner have the utter and abject joy of cleaning and tinkering with it himself if he (or she) so chooses. Once you clean it, or alter it from that as found, original state, you've taken away age and patina that cannot be put back, and robbed the new owner of the choice.

I would have paid much more for this bike before it was cleaned than after, probably double. 90% of that bike's value to me was the as found, undisturbed condition. I suspect that was the allure to many other collectors as well. Ultimately, it appears to have dawned on the seller himself that the fun is in the making it his own as he's decided to keep it.

It should be a cautionary tale to others who find original bikes like this; decide if you're going to sell or keep. If you're going to keep it, do whatever you want with it. But if you're going to sell and want to preserve the value to others, leave it completely alone, and as found. Condition is where all the value usually resides for me. I would have left this bike exactly as found, missing the top of the light even, and paid a bunch for the privilege.. I wish I had seen it when it was first posted, I would have... well woulda, coulda, shoulda.
I get it. However, people are free to change their minds.


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oldfart36

I live for the CABE
May 2, 2012
1,590
63
Parsons, United States
Wow, cool bike (I've said this before in the past), trim package has alot to do with the year! While most of us Monark lovers would consider this a Deluxe Rocket, it is not the Holy Grail of Monarks, just a cool variation of the Rocket! In the ad I read "NOS" replacement for the headlight cover, for example, Would love to see or hear the story behind that. You have a nice bike, but I doubt even the "Hipsters" would pay what your asking. If your truly wanting to sell, climb back down to earth and get real. The people saying your price on the bike is real, have them show you the money, and cough it up. Some of us remember your stories of the 5K offers on the table a few months back!
 

Nashman

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Oct 2, 2016
2,652
62
Winnipeg, Canada
Please forgive me, I'm way late to the party here... I was sorry to see this bike cleaned up, despite what a good job the seller did.

I wanted this bike for myself immediately when I saw the as found photos of it. Much of that allure was the idea of cleaning and fixing it up myself, or having the choice to leave it exactly as found. Had I discovered this thread before the seller did anything to it, my addition to the conversation would have been - if you're going to sell the bike, then leave it completely as found and let the new owner have the utter and abject joy of cleaning and tinkering with it himself if he (or she) so chooses. Once you clean it, or alter it from that as found, original state, you've taken away age and patina that cannot be put back, and robbed the new owner of the choice.

I would have paid much more for this bike before it was cleaned than after, probably double. 90% of that bike's value to me was the as found, undisturbed condition. I suspect that was the allure to many other collectors as well. Ultimately, it appears to have dawned on the seller himself that the fun is in the making it his own as he's decided to keep it.

It should be a cautionary tale to others who find original bikes like this; decide if you're going to sell or keep. If you're going to keep it, do whatever you want with it. But if you're going to sell and want to preserve the value to others, leave it completely alone, and as found. Condition is where all the value usually resides for me. I would have left this bike exactly as found, missing the top of the light even, and paid a bunch for the privilege.. I wish I had seen it when it was first posted, I would have... well woulda, coulda, shoulda.
Well said Justin!
 
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