1901 Monarch cushion frame roadster


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rusty_apache

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 25, 2016
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Took it for a short ride this afternoon and found it amazingly comfortable to ride. The suspension was bottoming out even with most of my 135 pounds shifted to the front tire so I added a 1/2 socket to the spring chamber and now it’s like floating on a CLOUD!
I was concerned that it might start slamming the upper range of motion with the spacer added but it doesn’t.
This is now my favorite rider!
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David Brown

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Very nice bike you have there .. I also love Cushion frame bikes as I have a 1908 or so CCM Massey Silver Ribbon cushion frame.I have had this bike about 25 years or so and have put about 6000 miles on it. I also had a lot of other cushion frame bikes over the years and found that most of the springs are broken. I had 25 springs made along time ago and have used and sold them all. My Massey bike is geared great and have done 7 or 8 century rides on it. You do get a bit of bounce if you are pedaling hard.
 

rusty_apache

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 25, 2016
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Interesting technique for altering the spring rate, good to hear it worked well.
Does the rear-end bounce when pedalling hard, or does it just smooth out the bumps?
It was a terrible day to take out a vintage bicycle, cold and drizzling, so I didn’t pedal hard. What I know so far is that it just smooths out the road wonderfully!
The cylinders that house the spring are well fitted and greased so they do create a slight dampening effect.
 
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rusty_apache

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Very nice bike you have there .. I also love Cushion frame bikes as I have a 1908 or so CCM Massey Silver Ribbon cushion frame.I have had this bike about 25 years or so and have put about 6000 miles on it. I also had a lot of other cushion frame bikes over the years and found that most of the springs are broken. I had 25 springs made along time ago and have used and sold them all. My Massey bike is geared great and have done 7 or 8 century rides on it. You do get a bit of bounce if you are pedaling hard.
This spring looks to be a replacement so I would like to find a closer replacement eventually.
Until then I am going to replace the little socket with a slightly shorter rubber plug of some kind.
 

hoofhearted

Saint Lactose The Tolerant
Jan 20, 2010
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There’s supposed to be washers?
Not being sure what surfaces the ''rubber plug'' may encounter ...
a top washer and a bottom washer may provide a bit o' mercy
to the plug while it is being asked to do a job of dampening.


We are asking that a rubber plug accept it's new job of ''dampening''.
And if it does ... it's girth is under force of constant change (ouch) ...
the very least we could do is to provide somewhat of a protective
ceiling and floor for the little plug ...


Without top and bottom washers ... that little plug may run into
surfaces that are uneven ... that may influence the function / life
of the plug itself.


Consider a technology that does not always consider all .that it could ......

There MAY have been cushion-frame machines built without benefit
of a ''hinge-feature'' of sorts. That is ... a cushion frame fitted without
a way for the rear triangle to ''flex''.


Oh --- those poor chainstays.

But not on your machine !! It has been fitted not only with a rear shock-
absorbing device .. but also a built-in technology to keep that rear triangle
in unstressed geometry ... as it is being used.



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These last three illustrations were originally provided by CABE member... @fordsnake. Thank you, Carlton.
 
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rusty_apache

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 25, 2016
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Alamo city
#12
Not being sure what surfaces the ''rubber plug'' may encounter ...
a top washer and a bottom washer may provide a bit o' mercy
to the plug while it is being asked to do a job of dampening.


We are asking that a rubber plug accept that it's new job of
''dampening''. And if it does ... it's girth is under force of constant
change (ouch) ... the very least we could do is to provide somewhat
of a protective ceiling and floor for the little plug ...


Without top ands bottom washers ... that little plug may run into
surfaces that are uneven ... that may influence the function / life
of the plug itself.


Consider a technology that does not always consider all .that it could ......

There MAY have been cushion-frame machines built without benefit
of a ''hinge-feature'' of sorts. That is ... a cushion frame fitted without
a way for the rear triangle to ''flex''.


Oh --- those poor chainstays.

But not on your machine !! It has been fitted not only with a rear shock-
absorbing device .. but also a built-in technology to keep that rear triangle
in unstressed geometry ... as it is being used.



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These last three illustrations were originally provided by CABE member... @fordsnake. Thank you, Carlton.

Yes that makes a great deal of sense. I thought that maybe they were original equipment but they would certainly stabilize a rubber or neoprene plug.
In addition to the leaf spring the lower stays also pivot. It works beautifully and smoothly without a squeak!
Thanks for posting the original literature!
 

rusty_apache

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 25, 2016
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#13
Doood ... I don't care who's peepin' that machine ...
or actually puttin' it thru her paces on the road ...
that .is one bitchin' ride !!


..... patric
Thanks Patric!

There’s only one bike that I won’t ride and it’s the National Racer. If I ever find a replacement set of those very delicate racing spokes for it, it would be ridden at least one time!
 

dnc1

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Thanks Patric!

There’s only one bike that I won’t ride and it’s the National Racer. If I ever find a replacement set of those very delicate racing spokes for it, it would be ridden at least one time!
What size are those spokes? If I could find some I'd gladly donate them just to see that National taken on the track!
That's another beauty too.
 
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dnc1

I live for the CABE
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Wow, that is thin.
I know people custom make spokes for veteran machines over here. I'm guessing there may be 'Wheelmen' members over your side of the pond who do similar stuff.
Nipples would have to be custom-made too.
You could always build up a racing wheelset with spokes of a different size. A fun, sometimes frustrating, but ultimately rewarding and satisfying experience.
I'll be building a set for my National soon, admittedly not as rare a beast as yours (it's a 1911 Model 132) but I'm so looking forward to riding it, hopefully this year too!
 

Motoguzzipaul

Finally riding a big boys bike
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I had to extend and make room for the belt drive for my Hygenic Cushion Frame
for my 1903 Model 35, E R Thomas motorcyle
Had a guy make me new springs for the extra length and my weight. all he needed to know was out side dynamiter length and travel.
and only charged me $35.00.
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locomotion

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David Brown

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 14, 2014
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Paul It is that rear cushion fork the piece you got from me?Spring look just like the ones I had made. Only I would think your is longer. You can use that spring on Pierce bikes also just work the threaded bung out of top and bottom of the Pierce spring and with a little work put the bung in the new spring
 
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