1918 DAYTON Military Bicycle


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Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
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#44
Hi All,

Please excuse my asking this on a Dayton thread. As some of you may know I'm working on a Columbia Military Model at the moment. The subject of tires is a bit of a problem for me, and that excellent Dayton ad. has raised the question again, showing what appears to be white tires.

I'm aware that the wheels/tyres on 'surplus' Columbias as advertised for sale to the public are not necessarily the same as those fitted to the 'in service' bike.

As an example, here is the advert for the immediate post war Columbia built up with surplus parts (Credit Mr Columbia's site):

http://www.vintagecolumbiabikes.com...AtWar/1920MilitaryModel.jpg&target=tlx_picler

It appears to show the Vitalic tire tread, and states in the ad; that Vitalic De Luxe or Fisk Cord are the tire options on Steel Cement rims.

The rear rim (below) on my 1917 bike appears to be original (it still has the Morrow hub etc), but appears to be a 'Clincher' type rather than 'Steel Cement'. This leads me to think that not all of the options seen in post war advertising are correct for wartime bikes.

Photo A200.jpg


So, (bearing in mind I am still a beginner at this!),

Is the above Clincher rim for a tire with separate tube, or a single tube tire?

Were Vitalic treads available in both of these options?

Did wartime bikes have black or white tires (the ones in the Davis ad; look white)?

I'm getting to the point of buying the tires, so I'd like to be correct if possible.

Thanks for the help.

Best Regards,

Adrian
 

Goldenindian

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 31, 2014
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#45
The rim is a clincher and it takes a single tube.
Vitalic came in white. And different tread colors. Red/blue. I have only ever seen a colored vitalic set once. White is the most common. I struggle to ever use the word "common" when talking vitalic. They are a rare find. Good luck
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The bottom picture is the clinch version.
 

Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
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#46
Hi Goldenindian,

thanks for the comprehensive reply. The tyre that came off it was a very early and disintegrating black single tube made by Dunlop in France,

OK, so it looks like I'll have to spend some time getting something near original, which means (since I want to use the bike) two wheel sets, something practical, and (hopefully eventually ((Hope costs nothing)) something real. That's helped with that decision. Now to find a suitable wheelset with white tyres...

Have a Good Weekend,

Adrian
 

Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
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#48
Thanks for the information, Hoofhearted. (-:

Now I have another bit to find (and I have a very nice Solar mounted on it at the moment!)

Happy New Year.

Adrian
 
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Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
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#54
Hi All,

Following up the Neverout lamp discussion, I came across this catalogue page detailing the different types and brackets to go with them.

Interesting that the 'Bicycle' light was supplied with both brackets (types 3 and 4) to fit to the fork and the head tube, and that the Military clamp (type 66) is actually for a Motorcycle. This could be easily mistaken for the type 46 carriage dash bracket.

Best Regards,

Adrian.

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Mercian

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 1, 2016
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#55
Hi All,

I'm here to ask for a favour. (-:

I've bought a 'Neverout' lamp and clamp for my 1917 'Military Model' Columbia from the US, but can only get it shipped to addresses in the US. Would anyone be willing to receive it, and send it on to me in France? I would pay the postage by Paypal.

Thank you for your consideration.

Best Regards,

Adrian
 
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hoofhearted

Saint Lactose The Tolerant
Jan 20, 2010
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#56
Hi All,

I'm here to ask for a favour. (-:

I've bought a 'Neverout' lamp and clamp for my 1917 'Military Model' Columbia from the US, but can only get it shipped to addresses in the US. Would anyone be willing to receive it, and send it on to me in France? I would pay the postage by Paypal.

Thank you for your consideration.

Best Regards,

Adrian
Adrian ..... I can help.

Am contacting you off the line, thru CABE PM ...
with my Ohio address.

Don't worry about the Paypal stuff -- hoo nose ...
I may need a small favor in return one day.

..... patric
 
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