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1918 DAYTON Military Bicycle

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Hmmm. Why is it when these gentleman focus there efforts on a thread, we get such amazing history lessons? Patrick the teacher, Ivo the wizard and Captain Genero ... True soldiers. I salute you.
I need to watch more video, but what a time capsule! Let's learn more! May the drab green scheme team continue.
Thanks.





~ Nick
 
More 1918 Captain!

Sir,
This picture(original photo) was delivered to me by some of our scouts.
Holy sis boom bah, ! Lots of details and questions arise.
Captain H, can you please hold some training.
Sniper I.
 
Sir,
This picture(original photo) was delivered to me by some of our scouts.
Holy sis boom bah, ! Lots of details and questions arise.
Captain H, can you please hold some training.
Sniper I.


Master Sniper Ivo ... Wonderful catch - this foto.

Adding a "card" to the H-D ''collector-card'' stack that was never issued
with those that were. There is factory-evidence of the production of
these H-D Military-Machines ... formally referred Model B-1.

Training to start end of next week .. Lord Willing ...........


Captain H


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Close spaced frame bars

Frame bars close spaced, frame pump, rear carrier, bell?(left side bar), mud guards, fork mount lamp.
 
IVO .... am postin' the foto you sent me, today. Am too pooped to pop ..... will comment tomorrow.
I believe this foto has better clarity than the similar-one an entry or two back ... Thank YOU - IVO !!!


....... patric

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Thoughts ...........

THOUGHTS .........

In an effort to utilize parts and equipment that Davis may have had
plenty of ... the company may have used the Racer-Only, Two-Piece
Crank ... and the Racer's Fixed-Gear Hub.

My personal observation is that the company built / sold very-few Racing
Models compared to other models that the company produced.

My guess-ti-ment is based on the amount / type of Davis models found
today as relics or survivors.

Most of the above is a personal opinion, formed using no real-world evidence.

Certainly, much more research is necessary before conclusions can be reached.



................ patric



post script ..... This is a great foto - IVO !! Thank YOU !!






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HELP ... is there any scholarly-evidence that the '18 Dayton Military Bicycle
was painted BLACK ... and / or .. any scholarly evidence this same model had
it's brightwork also painted ... similar to the 1918 Great Western and the 1918 Col-
umbia .. that had the brightwork painted ??

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See below photos

Quotation from bike ..... "The bike in the photo seems to have the top tubes much closer than other examples in the thread."

With regards to WW I ... Great Western military bicycles AND Westfield-Columbia military bicycles
have upper-tubing members closer together than some of the Davis-Dayton and Davis-Harley Davidson
military bicycles.

Both the Dayton and the H-D military models have been observed with a narrow-bar configuration if the
machine has a 3" [+/-] headtube. The Dayton and the H-D machines having a 5" OR 7" [+/-] headtube have
been observed with a wide-bar configuration.

The Great Western and the Columbia machines are painted in an olive-drab recipe for paint that could change
from bicycle to bicycle. The two, pigmented components of the OD paint on the GW and the Columbia were
yellow-ochre AND black ... mixed in ever-changing ratios.

The paint on the Dayton military AND the H-D military has been observed to be lowered-gloss black. A few Naval-
Yard specimens have been observed to have been over-painted in what the U.S. Navy calls Haze Grey (Gray ?).



..... patric


Will edit this info this weekend and add fotos. Also ... don't blame me for that Haze Gray reference ... that is pure
Admiral Balloontyre (Ivo) at his best.

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Captain H,

Am submitting (now declassified) spy photos of NAVY
haze gray overpainted bicycle. Of note: black under coat, chain ring in Nickle. Rims look euro to me.
I.
 
Not an HD in my opinion

haze gray overpainted bicycle. Of note: black under coat

It looks like the gray is painted over the spoke nipples too. Leading this reader to think the paint was added possibly decades later. The fork and frame do look more like the Westfield and Great Western built double bars.

The HD sprocket looks pretty flat as well.
 
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It looks like the gray is painted over the spoke nipples too. Leading this reader to think the paint was added possibly decades later. The fork and frame do look more like the Westfield and Great Western built double bars.

The HD sprocket looks pretty flat as well.

Yes, bike from Hartung auction.

I can attest, (since I saw the bike in person and took these and several other photos) that the serial number stamp on bottom bracket is running with the bearings in true Davis fashion.

The gray paint is a repaint, US Navy typical, if it isn't moving paint it motto.

The chain ring is as good as authentic as I've seen, I'll look for a better pic.
 
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