1927ish Iver Johnson 90b track racer


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anders1

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 18, 2018
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#81
Major Taylor getting ready to race Ellegard.

Bike looks good here with black head tube and black rims.

Anyone built an exact replica of this bike????

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1902 is the first time I see the truss frame racer. I’ll post a pic from 1902 catalog. This is a 22” model 80. Notice there is no full nickel head and fork in early years only optional nickel crown. Another great pic above. I would love to find one of the TOC racers!!! Maybe looking for the next project. Great pics!
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anders1

Finally riding a big boys bike
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#84
I know I've asked this question before, but does anyone have knowledge of the oft-rumoured MMT film?
Apologies for the digression from these fabulous Iver Johnson machines.
Those starting line shots are superb @corbettclassics!
I haven’t heard of it but it would be great to see
 
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anders1

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#85
I know I've asked this question before, but does anyone have knowledge of the oft-rumoured MMT film?
Apologies for the digression from these fabulous Iver Johnson machines.
Those starting line shots are superb @corbettclassics!
I googled Major Taylor movie and found a lot of stuff on YouTube. Seems there is a movie about him YouTube shows a preview. Google it their is a lot of information and good photos.
 
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corbettclassics

I live for the CABE
Feb 11, 2012
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#86
I know I've asked this question before, but does anyone have knowledge of the oft-rumoured MMT film?
Apologies for the digression from these fabulous Iver Johnson machines.
Those starting line shots are superb @corbettclassics!
Since you like the starting line shots, here's another that's similar and most likely hasn't been seen before:

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anders1

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#87
Since you like the starting line shots, here's another that's similar and most likely hasn't been seen before:

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That is a good shot! Looks like an American flag draped behind him, and the camera on the ground indicating that one camera man is holding MT up the other. Likely taken after a victory lap, with all eyes on MT.
 
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anders1

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#89
Found these rims from one of the above mentioned sites, by @Duchess I believe. They have the V shape that would have come on the 90a or b, but I want to run it past you guys maybe @Handyman so I’m sure before purchasing. I will include the technical information that I have. Also they are willing to do the 40-32 spoke combo that is necessary for the C-Lea. These look close to me but please tell me what you think, thanks.
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Handyman

I live for the CABE
Oct 23, 2009
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#90
I think those CB Italia wood wheels with the "High V" profile would work and look very nice. 98% of the people looking at your restoration would think they look like the originals. The features that throw things off a bit for me are the rather "flat" looking sides of the wheel, a little different from the originals, and the CB Italia stamp. Given the difficulty of finding a usable set of 40 x 32 spoke wheels I think this is a good alternative. Pic attached is difficult to see but it is a set of Fairbanks Boston High V wheels to compare them to. Pete in Fitchburg
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anders1

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 18, 2018
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#91
I think those CB Italia wood wheels with the "High V" profile would work and look very nice. 98% of the people looking at your restoration would think they look like the originals. The features that throw things off a bit for me are the rather "flat" looking sides of the wheel, a little different from the originals, and the CB Italia stamp. Given the difficulty of finding a usable set of 40 x 32 spoke wheels I think this is a good alternative. Pic attached is difficult to see but it is a set of Fairbanks Boston High V wheels to compare them to. Pete in Fitchburg
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Yes I had the same thought about the flat sides and stamping. However, if you look closely the stamp it actually looks like a sticker, to me at least? As for the round sides, I might be able to sand the edge just a little bit in order to round it slightly. Not sure about that just a thought. I would have to examine it more carefully and compare to the original before attempting to do so. Also I can get the rims unfinished so that won’t be an issue. I knew you were the man to talk to about such technicalities concerning the CL, hence the reason I tagged you in the post. I will likely decide to go with this set but I will look some more. Thanks again Pete!!
 
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Duchess

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Mine's a sticker. There's also a sticker by the valve saying not to inflate over 55 psi (non-reinforced clinchers). Yours is a couple years later, so it may have changed and, really, nobody will know, so go whatever style you like best IMO, but in the interest of helping, my Iver's originals(?) had a round profile tubeless rim. Basically, what I got from CB Italia, but if the flat sides were cut down, leaving just the rounded crown. Originals:

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As an aside, my and two adjacent towns had a bunch of gas main explosions causing over 70 fires (somehow only one fatality, though still sad—18 year old kid sitting in his car got crushed by a falling chimney), so they evacuated the whole town. I got the kids out, grabbed my computer and a laundry basket full of clothes, set the Iver and my USAAF bike (my most comfortable and versatile one and it was near the garage door) outside in the yard far enough from the house and behind a tree that it would probably be OK if it blew up, and left. Nothing blew up and the bikes were fine. We live in the woods on a fairly hidden 1/4 mile drive surrounded by unswimmable ponds and woods, so I wasn't worried about theft. Point is, in a pinch, the first object I looked to save after my laptop, which just comes with me, was the Iver.
 

anders1

Finally riding a big boys bike
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#99
Boy that’s a good looking Racer! I love the forward rake of the top tube, and that appears to be the green one as well. I think I’ve made up my mind and will be going with the green on the 90b. However it is a lot brighter new , but I think it’s going to be a beautiful bike. Thanks for the pic. Sweet Racer. Anthony
 

anders1

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 18, 2018
465
377
44
Southern California, USA
Mine's a sticker. There's also a sticker by the valve saying not to inflate over 55 psi (non-reinforced clinchers). Yours is a couple years later, so it may have changed and, really, nobody will know, so go whatever style you like best IMO, but in the interest of helping, my Iver's originals(?) had a round profile tubeless rim. Basically, what I got from CB Italia, but if the flat sides were cut down, leaving just the rounded crown. Originals:

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As an aside, my and two adjacent towns had a bunch of gas main explosions causing over 70 fires (somehow only one fatality, though still sad—18 year old kid sitting in his car got crushed by a falling chimney), so they evacuated the whole town. I got the kids out, grabbed my computer and a laundry basket full of clothes, set the Iver and my USAAF bike (my most comfortable and versatile one and it was near the garage door) outside in the yard far enough from the house and behind a tree that it would probably be OK if it blew up, and left. Nothing blew up and the bikes were fine. We live in the woods on a fairly hidden 1/4 mile drive surrounded by unswimmable ponds and woods, so I wasn't worried about theft. Point is, in a pinch, the first object I looked to save after my laptop, which just comes with me, was the Iver.
Sure glad you are around to tell the story, wow that’s must of been an awful experience. Really cool that you thought to save the bike as well! Of course we all would if given the chance. Also very sad when lives are lost. I live here in California and we have our share of wild fires. I’ve been evacuated a few times once for 14 days... Thanks for all the great wheel feedback. Not exactly sure if I want to go clincher or not? It would be nice to have a decent ride on occasion but I haven’t really made up my mind?? Does anyone have any thoughts on that, clincher or solid tube for originality?? Anthony
 

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