1939 Hawthorne Twinbar Zep

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  1. #1 Posted May 3, 2016

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    Finally getting around to restoring/rebuilding my Zep.

    Posted it up here a few times, and thanks to you guys, pretty much confirmed it's CWC-built, making it the third one known to exist (please prove me right or wrong, I can't find any others besides a rusty one and the blue one on Dave's site.

    Serial number: E08804 with a 9C

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    I hate red bikes, so I was happy to find original blue paint in the bottom bracket:

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    Got this bike from a friend, who's dad found it in an abandoned warehouse in Santa Ana, CA. Rusty and missing parts.

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    Front fender has holes for a light, so it might be the "standard twinbar model," but it has the horseshoe truss rod bracket for the twin lights. Fenders fit right, so probably original.

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    Wheels were Lobdell drop centers with a Musselman coaster and a finned eclipse up front, but my buddy relaced the wheels with some different, modern wheels.

    I had some rusty, bent, crappy drop centers so I straightened them, sandblasted and painted them blue with black pinstripes, and relaced them, using the Musselman coaster and a new departure up front.

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    Down the road I may swap them out with a chrome pair with the correct ND coaster, but for now, I'm going with what I have.
     
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    Sandblasted all the parts and painted them a deep blue. Need to make the pointy darts on the frame in white, and gonna do a thin black outline.

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    Fenders are going to get the same treatment, white tips with black pinstripe.

    I hate the chevron arrow on the forks like the restored one on Dave's site, so I'm gonna do a different Hawthorne dart for mine.

    That's where I'm at so far. Rusty parts are going to the chromer's, and I'll be pinstriping and detailing while I wait.

    Need a chainguard, rack, tank (wish me luck on that,) lights, seat, pedals... but it's a start...
     
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    For reference, these are the only two I've seen, both on Dave's site (thanks Dave!) And the only ad I've seen.

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    Very nice start! Yes, these bikes are seldom seen....but there are more out there than you'd think. I personally know of at least 5 not including your find.
     
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    Post 'em up if you have pics!

    On a side note, for a company called "Cleveland Welding," they're really lousy at brazing:

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    I had to repair the missing chunks (that are now rattling around in the tubes.)
     
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    I know you don't like red, but here is the kingpin of all 39 Zep twinbars. You can PM or email if you need any further info/pics. Best of luck with your project. In my opinion, the most under appreciated deluxe bike of that era. guyer.jeff@yahoo.com
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    Awesome bike! Thanks for posting it.

    Are your bars original? Mine has the flatter, streamlined torringtons like in the ad.
     
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    When I acquired the bike, it did not have the handlebars. I did get a lesson about torrington bars from Walt Adams at the Coasters CWC ride last weekend. I did not know about the different profiles. Double checked mine and they seem to be the flat style.
     
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    I was hoping to have mine at least rideable to make that CWC ride, but just didn't have the time.

    I wish there were some original photos or other ads for these bikes. All we have to go on is the drawings.

    In the ad, the red one has different fork darts, chainguard, looks like one straight fender brace (both mine are curved,) and other differences.

    Maybe one of you hoarders out there (I mean that in a good way) have some other documentation laying around?
     
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    I couldn't tell you. Showed up at ML.
     
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    Didn't notice any holes in the bottom center bar of your frame. Much like the 37RMS, tanked bikes had battery trays that screwed directly to the frame. Regards to Jerry at CNH for photos.
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