1947 Luxury Liner


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hawkster19

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 26, 2015
380
701
Fort Recovery, United States
#1
Just sharing some images of my latest rehab which I've determined to be a 1947 thanks to all the fantastic threads here on The CABE. I've had this bike for several years and won't detail all the reasons I put off working on it but thought some of you may enjoy the images of the before and after. I love taking a useless, crunchy bike, removing the grime and loose rust, preserving it's patina with some linseed oil, then greasing and reassembling it to ride as well as it did at its inception. This thing just gliiddeessss along. I'm quite smitten. I also found the history of the Luxury Liner and Brooks Stevens an amazing read while researching here and on the internet!

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hawkster19

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 26, 2015
380
701
Fort Recovery, United States
#2
BTW, the serial number is A70131 with a CW running the opposite way on the bottom bracket.
 
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Boris

Fat tired old rider
Feb 16, 2008
11,804
6,425
Portland, OR 97206
#9
Conscious decision not to use the original wheels. Were they toast?
 

hawkster19

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 26, 2015
380
701
Fort Recovery, United States
#10
Conscious decision not to use the original wheels. Were they toast?
About that.....well, since you asked......they are quite roached. But hear me out. The spokes have undergone that type of rusting where the middles of the spokes have thinned and about 4 had snapped off. The gentleman Caber I purchased this project from had included a set of CWC rims that had been sandblasted. That was my biggest cause of consternation and foot dragging on this project and why it took me so long to finally dig in and do something with it. I couldn't decide if I wanted to get those rims chromed. If I wanted to get them painted. But if I did either of those then they would look seriously out-of-place with the patina of the bike. I contemplated and contemplated, obviously. I even thought of removing the hubs and just lacing them into the unfinished CWC rims. I finally decided to put this semi-period correct set of what I believe to be Monark wheels on it until I can find a proper set of patina'd CWC wheels for my bike. I wanted to ride it after all these years.

Now, all that long explanation aside, after I removed the original wheel set, they didn't seem quite as compromised as I had thought. I replaced the snapped spokes on the front rim which trued the wheel almost to a perfect rotation and the rear wheel still remarkably remains almost true. Sooo, now I'm thinking of cleaning those wheels a bit and then making another decision. I might even see what they would look like with those WW red tires. I am a bit worried about those rusted spokes as I would like this to be a frequent rider.

Aren't you sorry you asked? But thanks for the fun question.
 
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Boris

Fat tired old rider
Feb 16, 2008
11,804
6,425
Portland, OR 97206
#12
About that.....well, since you asked......they are quite roached. But hear me out. The spokes have undergone that type of rusting where the middles of the spokes have thinned and about 4 had snapped off. The gentleman Caber I purchased this project from had included a set of CWC rims that had been sandblasted. That was my biggest cause of consternation and foot dragging on this project and why it took me so long to finally dig in and do something with it. I couldn't decide if I wanted to get those rims chromed. If I wanted to get them painted. But if I did either of those then they would look seriously out-of-place with the patina of the bike. I contemplated and contemplated, obviously. I even thought of removing the hubs and just lacing them into the unfinished CWC rims. I finally decided to put this semi-period correct set of what I believe to be Monark wheels on it until I can find a proper set of patina'd CWC wheels for my bike. I wanted to ride it after all these years.

Now, all that long explanation aside, after I removed the original wheel set, they didn't seem quite as compromised as I had thought. I replaced the snapped spokes on the front rim which trued the wheel almost to a perfect rotation and the rear wheel still remarkably remains almost true. Sooo, now I'm thinking of cleaning those wheels a bit and then making another decision. I might even see what they would look like with those WW red tires. I am a bit worried about those spokes rusted spokes as I would like this to be a frequent rider.

Aren't you sorry you asked? But thanks for the fun question.
No, I'm not sorry I asked at all, and thank you for sharing your thought process.
Now here's my thought process:
I'd stick with the original wheels on that bike, because once cleaned I think you'd have a matching patina with the rest of the bike. If you have to replace a bunch of rusty spokes, and rebuild the wheels, so be it. You could use some good used spokes or age some new ones https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/any-suggestions-on-rusting-shiny-stuff-to-match-bike.99511/. At any rate with the spokes out, the rims will be so much easier to clean.
And yes, this would cost some money if you're not a wheel builder, but the bike will look like it grew old all together.
 
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marching_out

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 3, 2017
278
489
52
Warsaw, USA
#13
What was your finishing process other than the boiled linseed? Cleaning before hand...any abrasives used? The bike looks amazing.
 

hawkster19

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 26, 2015
380
701
Fort Recovery, United States
#14
What was your finishing process other than the boiled linseed? Cleaning before hand...any abrasives used? The bike looks amazing.
I always cringe a little when asked this question. I've been using the same process since I was a kid and it's probably not the best thing to be telling people. I remove all the loose rust, grime and debris using a wire buffer (not so much the wheel which is harsher but the one that looks like a buffer - image attached), and then I clean the frame and other parts using....various brushes and gasoline. It's probably not the safest method but it is the perfect way to clean parts quickly.

After wiping everything down well to get rid of as much remaining gunk as well as the gas, I put an old sock on my hand, douse it in linseed, then rub it all down. It leaves the perfect patina. If you do that process above, be careful with the gas. I hate relaying that whole process because everyone acts like the use of gas is insane. I don't smoke, I never use a heater, I never grind with my pan of gas around, etc. I won't even use fluorescent bulbs in the garage. And I don't use gas on anything with nice paint. Usually. lol
 

hawkster19

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jul 26, 2015
380
701
Fort Recovery, United States
#15
BTW, I meant to attach this image. I prefer this brush to an actual wheel. It's much less harsh to paint and chrome even though it takes a bit longer to get stuff off.

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