1949 Black Phantom??

[Kevgallo]

We inherited this bike from my Father-in-law in 2012 in was bought for $4000 have receipts and a paper that came with it that shows where the serial number Iines up ??? It's in great shape we are just trying to see what we got and felt this was the best way to go about it not many places in our area that deal with them.. your knowledge is greatly appreciated..

Has a manufacture date of Oct 28th 1948.. F302690 is the serial number..

 

[Kevgallo]

 

[HEMI426]

Welcome to the Cabe, was that bike restored? I only ask because it looks to good to be 74 years old. I'm no expert but I think they reproduced these in the 90s. I see no staining around the seat rivets, no scratches, no yellowing of the white walls, no drying on the seat, everything looks to crisp & clean. Others with alot more knowledge than me will chime in. In any case it's a nice bike.

 

[tacochris]

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[GTs58]

Welcome to the Cabe. Very nice Black Phantom with a decent amateur restoration.

The dates associated with the serial numbers are not production dates or any kind of build date. The serial numbers were stamped on the bikes component on that date and then later used to build a frame. The actual build/production date is a total unknown. I came up with the stamping date of 10-29-1949. I'd dust that off, service the crank, hubs and then ride it.

 

[1817cent]

Looks like a decent bike. Without being inspected by someone who knows about these bikes, it is real difficult deciding what is original and what is 1995 parts. In any case though, the bike has value probably between $1000 and $2000 depending upon the age and condition of the various parts. The restoration, as mentioned above, is lacking.

 

[49autocycledeluxe]

we can't judge the quality of this bike in photos when it is dirty.

the scallops don't match my original paint 1950.

 

[Kevgallo]

Welcome to the Cabe, was that bike restored? I only ask because it looks to good to be 74 years old. I'm no expert but I think they reproduced these in the 90s. I see no staining around the seat rivets, no scratches, no yellowing of the white walls, no drying on the seat, everything looks to crisp & clean. Others with alot more knowledge than me will chime in. In any case it's a nice bike.

We inherited this bike from my Father-in-law in 2012 in was bought for $4000 have receipts and a paper that came with it that shows where the serial number Iines up ??? It's in great shape we are just trying to see what we got and felt this was the best way to go about it not many places in our area that deal with them.. your knowledge is greatly appreciated..

Has a manufacture date of Oct 28th 1948.. F302690 is the serial number..
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Looks like a decent bike. Without being inspected by someone who knows about these bikes, it is real difficult deciding what is original and what is 1995 parts. In any case though, the bike has value probably between $1000 and $2000 depending upon the age and condition of the various parts. The restoration, as mentioned above, is lacking.

We inherited this bike from my Father-in-law in 2012 in was bought for $4000 have receipts and a paper that came with it that shows where the serial number Iines up ??? It's in great shape we are just trying to see what we got and felt this was the best way to go about it not many places in our area that deal with them.. your knowledge is greatly appreciated..

Has a manufacture date of Oct 28th 1948.. F302690 is the serial number..
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I want to thank EVERYONE for such quick response incredible and such great knowledge and truthful thsts what we where looking for .. she is a beauty for sure .. thanks and we appreciate the welcomes.

 

[old hotrod]

bike looks like it was restored with a combination of reproduction parts and repainted original frame and fork...pretty common technique after the parts from the 95 reissues were made available.

 

[bobcycles]

Definitely a 'funky' restoration...reproduction fenders, tank, pedals, most likely carrier and taillight...paint
layout quite a bit Missing the mark...It's unfortunate that, in my opinion, a huge sum was way overpaid for
the bike...maybe a 1000 dollar range machine by what I'm looking at here.
There are plenty of unscrupulous sellers who misrepresent stuff in this hobby sadly...
Enjoy the bike as a 'rider'... it is 'what it is'.