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1951 Black Phantom Excelsior

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Can anyone give me more info on the Excelsior badged early Phantoms, mine is a 51. I have looked on-line and can’t find much info about how many were made or what years? Thanks, Eric

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Why not post good pics of the bikes? Excelsior was an in-house Schwinn brand dating back to when Schwinn bought Excelsior about 1912.
 
Most of the Phantoms had the Schwinn oval head badge but the early one did have a few other badges. Never seen that particular badge used On a Phantom though. Owner swap out most likely. All Phantoms had chrome S-2 rims also.
 
Yes, I have the correct wheels for the 51 not installed yet. I was told the screw holes would be in a different location if it had standard oval badge. I have found a few others in the county, both are early 50, 51 like mine. I am no expert and don't know if the info is correct. That’s why I was asking if anyone else knew. Thanks.
 
I posted pics in the Phantom thread. Here is all my Phantoms, the 51 is the bottom right one.

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My 51 panther has the same badge. I’m pretty sure the hole spacing is closer together than the large oval badge. I have a early 50 green phantom that has a planes and trains badge too. They seem to be less common for sure. The large oval schwinn is the common badge.
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My 51 panther has the same badge. I’m pretty sure the hole spacing is closer together than the large oval badge. I have a early 50 green phantom that has a planes and trains badge too. They seem to be less common for sure. The large oval schwinn is the common badge. View attachment 1738889
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Thanks, Jim. That’s what I was told. The holes are different for screws and that how you can tell it’s original. THANK YOU!
 
Was that sprocket used on a 51? Havent seen that before if it is original to the bike.
I don’t think they used that sprocket on the early ones at all. I don’t think that sprocket happened until 57 or so in the phantoms. Should be the 52 tooth sprocket
 
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