1951 Black Phantom Excelsior

[SPhantom]

Was that sprocket used on a 51? Havent seen that before if it is original to the bike.

I do not know if it’s original. Was on the bike when I got it.

 

[YenkoStingerMaxx]

Neat stuff here.

 

[SPhantom]

I don’t think they used that sprocket on the early ones at all. I don’t think that sprocket happened until 57 or so in the phantoms. Should be the 52 tooth sprocket

OK. Good info. Thank you.

 

[Jim sciano]

If that Excelsior badge was installed at the factory that would make Schwinn a liar wouldn't it?

Yup, but with the small hole spacing it would definitely need to be one of the earlier style badges like this. Right?

 

[Freqman1]

The badge is likely original but I can’t say the same for the seat or chain ring.

 

[SPhantom]

Yup, but with the small hole spacing it would definitely need to be one of the earlier style badges like this. Right?

I am no expert but owning 4 Phantom and all the others have the standard oval badges, I know they wont fit the hole spacing on the Excelsior badge. Maybe other badges would fit the holes?

 

[SPhantom]

The badge is likely original but I can’t say the same for the seat or chain ring.

Seat is not original. Was on the bike when I bought it. I have a new refurbished original Phantom seat to install that I just got from Bobs Cycle.

 

[GTs58]

The Schwinn headtubes were made and drilled before they were used to build a frame and there were some 1950's bikes that had the small hole spacing. 1950 ushered in the large Schwinn oval headbadges but two hole spacings were still used on the headtubes. The smaller spacing was shortly deleted a few years later. This happened at the time that Schwinn was changing the marketing practices of their bikes and deleting many of their previous retailers. The Excelsior badge is a total freak on a Phantom, and I've heard rumors that some were black market remakes.

 

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I found this ad when I was trying to find the ad @HEMI426 was refering to in another post about painted bikes...

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Badge looks OG to me...

Not trying to hijack this thread, though it would have relevance...

 

[HEMI426]

Hey Lonestar it looks like the seat tube wouldn't come out so they cut it off. It also looks like they tried to put on a girls springer fork.