Urgent! 1957 Schwinn Phantom code B58767

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  1. #1 Posted Mar 2, 2018

    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    What are the color combos for this year bike. I just bought one that has been repainted a couple of times over the years. As I get down to the base coats the two colors are white and red. Was these colors an option in 1957?


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    Sounds like it could be a B6. But we need pictures.
     
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    Once a frame is repainted you never know for sure what it originally was, unless you were the original owner. Even then it can be hard to prove. About a year after the reproduction Phantom fever broke and you could buy them in the $1,300 range ( I bought one of each color for $1,200 each from Bob's Schwinn in Rome, GA ) there appeared a lot of 50-55 so called restored Phantoms. IE: had a good serial number and and frame was freshly painted and the repro parts ended up on them. Every now and then I still see one of these pop up.
     
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  6. #6 Posted Mar 2, 2018

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    It is definitely either a phantom or a B6. Really the only differences are chrome fenders on the phantom, painted on the b6,
    Both had different paint schemes and the seats were different. This bike has a phantom seat. Does not necessarily mean it's a phantom, as it could have been changed at some point.
    It's hard to tell what's going on there with so many layers of paint, but the red and white does not look like the original paint to me.
    I see some green in there, is it possible that might be the original paint? It's hard to tell from the pics. The combination of green paint, green grips and phantom seat makes me think it could be a green phantom.
    Looks like it's all there so it's a good starting point for a project.

    Edit: I thought that looked like a schwinn grip when I was looking at it on my phone. Now that I'm looking at it on the computer, it looks like it may not be a schwinn grip.
     
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    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    When I bought it I thought it might be a green bike but the grips are not original and there were drops of green paint on it. Thanks for the help and I will post pictures when it's done!
    Andy


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    I'd be hoping for a 1953 Streamliner if it was red and white. Phantoms were red with black accents, black with red accents and green with black accents. Looks like a 4 hole carrier though, but the carrier with the light was available on the B6.
     
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    Wow what a collection of paint colors! B6? Streamliner? Phantom? Or a combo of all of them lol
    Darcie
     
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    MOST LIKELY A BLACK PHANTOM.
    YOU CAN FIND AN ORIGINAL COLOR IN THE BOTTOM BRACKET HOUSING WHEN YOU TAKE THE CRANK/SPROCKET OUT.
    ALSO WHEN YOU TAKE THE FORK OUT OF THE FRAME THERE SHOULD BE OVERSPRAY ON THE STEER TUBE.
    IF YOU OR YOUR BUYER WANT A SMOOTH BRASS KEY CUT TO FIT THE CYCLE LOCK
    OR A BROKEN KEY REMOVED OR LOCK REPAIR, I CAN HELP!
    EMAIL ME DIRECT AT wespinchot@yahoo.com
    WES PINCHOT
     
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    'Lil Knee Scuffer

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    Hi jay
    I actually got down to the base color by the front sprocket. The base is a darker green. The grips are not original but at least now I have a starting point
    Andy


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    Yeah man, the white and red was the most popular and it is what most of the restored ones are today.
     
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    Green and cream/white was probably the most prevalent color combo on these. V/r Shawn
     
  14. #14 Posted May 3, 2018

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Bike deserves a proper and full on correct restoration.

    Start spending major bucks now!

    I have an original restored S-2 wheel set for you---------300.00
    An early Jim Bailey restored saddle------------350.00
    An NOS original Schwinn Delta Taillight-----------350.00
    NOS MINT unused White Wall USA Typhoon tires------300.00

    You'll be well on your way with only a few more thousand to spend to give the bike the treatment it deserves!

    Good luck with the project!