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1965 Schwinn Heavy Duti King Size

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sworley

Finally riding a big boys bike
Yeah, I did some fat whitewalls on my King Size American before I sold it. Thought the whitewalls looked great with the chrome fenders, rack and all (last pic). But on this painted fenders working-class bike, ww would look out of place, I'd think.

Made some pretty good progress today. Disassembled the bike and have the rusty parts in Evaporust, the greasy parts in gasoline (I don't have a parts cleaner), and washed and waxed the frame, fork and fenders. Nice seeing the 55 year old gal shine up again!
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razinhellcustomz

I live for the CABE
Yeah, I did some fat whitewalls on my King Size American before I sold it. Thought the whitewalls looked great with the chrome fenders, rack and all (last pic). But on this painted fenders working-class bike, ww would look out of place, I'd think.

Made some pretty good progress today. Disassembled the bike and have the rusty parts in Evaporust, the greasy parts in gasoline (I don't have a parts cleaner), and washed and waxed the frame, fork and fenders. Nice seeing the 55 year old gal shine up again!
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Hey Sworly, looking good. I was certainly right about the white walls. Enjoy and RideOn. Razin.
 

sworley

Finally riding a big boys bike
So you have 2 of these bikes? If so ,would you part with the other one? Thanks. Razin.
I do. I appreciate it but for now one will be a stock cruiser and the other will be the subject of a klunker build since I parted it out a year or two ago and some of the KS specifc stuff (like the rear fender) is gone.

I'll let the fine people of the CABE know if that changes, though. I already have some trepidation given how ridiculously expensive even remotely cool vintage BMX parts are getting!
 

razinhellcustomz

I live for the CABE
I do. I appreciate it but for now one will be a stock cruiser and the other will be the subject of a klunker build since I parted it out a year or two ago and some of the KS specifc stuff (like the rear fender) is gone.

I'll let the fine people of the CABE know if that changes, though. I already have some trepidation given how ridiculously expensive even remotely cool vintage BMX parts are getting!
Okay. Good luck with the build. Post some pix of the klunker build when you can. Thanks for sharing. Razin.
 

irideiam

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Yeah, I did some fat whitewalls on my King Size American before I sold it. Thought the whitewalls looked great with the chrome fenders, rack and all (last pic). But on this painted fenders working-class bike, ww would look out of place, I'd think.

Made some pretty good progress today. Disassembled the bike and have the rusty parts in Evaporust, the greasy parts in gasoline (I don't have a parts cleaner), and washed and waxed the frame, fork and fenders. Nice seeing the 55 year old gal shine up again!
In '65 the KSHD actually came with whitewall tractor tires, which makes no sense on a bike that was designed for commercial use, but to me it looks good. Note the catalog didn't show the KS frame in picture, but all 1965 KSHDs were the KS frame, as it was listed 1914-R.
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sworley

Finally riding a big boys bike
Not really much lately. The new tire rubs in the rear so that's a bummer. Not sure how to fix that aside from getting a different tire. I have a very dirty chain to clean for it and I'm not motivated to do so. Once that is done I'll likely take it to my shop to have the 3-speed hub refreshed, new cable, adjusted.

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razinhellcustomz

I live for the CABE
Not really much lately. The new tire rubs in the rear so that's a bummer. Not sure how to fix that aside from getting a different tire. I have a very dirty chain to clean for it and I'm not motivated to do so. Once that is done I'll likely take it to my shop to have the 3-speed hub Prefreshed, new cable, adjusted.

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Is the tire rubbing on the fender or on the chain stays? Also check to see if the tire is properly seat on the rim cause that would make a difference. Good luck. Great looking bike. Razin.
 

razinhellcustomz

I live for the CABE
I do. I appreciate it but for now one will be a stock cruiser and the other will be the subject of a klunker build since I parted it out a year or two ago and some of the KS specifc stuff (like the rear fender) is gone.

I'll let the fine people of the CABE know if that changes, though. I already have some trepidation given how ridiculously expensive even remotely cool vintage BMX parts are getting!
I have a nice SAKAE bmx stem that I would part with if it helps you out at all. Please let me know. Thanks and Happy Holodays. Razin.
 

bloo

Finally riding a big boys bike
I agree to razinhellcustomz to check the seating of the beads, it is not easy on Schwinn straight sided rims to get tires fully seated and centered. What hits? The fenders?

If you have diamond tread (which tends to be square profile) you might be able to switch to 2.0 Small Bricks and still run an oversize tire.

I am running the 2.0 Small bricks on my 61 Speedster, and I love them. The fenders didn't clear, but mine are Wald fenders, and are skimpier than Schwinn fenders. Also the brackets bolt rather than rivet, reducing clearance. I took them off, but I am sure I could have got them to work with a little massage, and your genuine fenders will have more room than I do.
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sworley

Finally riding a big boys bike
The tire is rubbing the fender at many points. There is a position in the dropouts where it does not rub as bad but the likelyhood of that being where the chain tension is correct is slim. I'll try checking the bead but I'm thinking that's pretty futile at this point given how it's uniformly rubbing.

It's tempting to just hog out the fender brace mounting holes for a little adjustability. Kinda frustrating to spend $55 on tires just to have this happen. I used to take this stuff in stride when I was younger then you add up all you spent and it's just suckers like me keeping the bike industry afloat with $75 here and $100 there... I think 2021 is the year I really reel this crap in and cut back my bike spending.

Thanks for the stem offer, @razinhellcustomz but I believe my buddy is fabbing up a Cook Bros slant/double clamp replica for me.
 
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razinhellcustomz

I live for the CABE
The tire is rubbing the fender at many points. There is a position in the dropouts where it does not rub as bad but the likelyhood of that being where the chain tension is correct is slim. I'll try checking the bead but I'm thinking that's pretty futile at this point given how it's uniformly rubbing.

It's tempting to just hog out the fender brace mounting holes for a little adjustability. Kinda frustrating to spend $55 on tires just to have this happen. I used to take this stuff in stride when I was younger then you add up all you spent and it's just suckers like me keeping the bike industry afloat with $75 here and $100 there... I think 2021 is the year I really reel this crap in and cut back my bike spending.

Thanks for the stem offer, @razinhellcustomz but I believe my buddy is fabbing up a Cook Bros slant/double clamp replica for me.
Okay, but at what cost? I could make you a really sweet deal on this stem if interested. Thanks. Razin. P.s. this ones the real deal.
 

bloo

Finally riding a big boys bike
You might check and see if your chain is worn out. What rear hub do you have and how many teeth?

My Speedster is 2 speed kickback, 18 teeth, and has the same chainring you have. With a new chain, depending where you cut it, the axle can be either almost out the front of the dropout, or almost all the way back. Anything else requires a half link. I seriously doubt the factory screwed with half links much if any.

It turns out the axle should be way forward. Apparently Schwinn intended it like that. There was a thread recently about a Corvette, derailleur equipped, and it turns out that the axle winds up way forward like that, and on a derailleur bike you don't have to slide to tension the chain. Since then I have been paying attention to Schwinn middleweights when people post their serial numbers. On 1-2-3 speeds the old marks made by the axle washer are always way forward. There could be exceptions, but so far its been 100% since I have been watching.

You might just need a new chain and possibly one less link.

EDIT: 67 Panther from another CABE thread:

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sworley

Finally riding a big boys bike
Okay, but at what cost? I could make you a really sweet deal on this stem if interested. Thanks. Razin. P.s. this ones the real deal.
I appreciate it but my application is 22.2, not the 21.1 standard, too. So this will fit the bill just right. Thanks though!
 
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