28" Reproduction Tire for 700c Clincher Rim


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Do we need a Singletube alternative in 700c?

  • Screw it, Only original will EVER do.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    18
  • Poll closed .

Krautwaggen

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
May 24, 2010
3,241
797
Bloomington, United States
#1
It seems that many of us are in search of alternatives to 28" singletube tires on our 28" bikes.

700c rims are a popular solution to getting a bike back on the road, but tire selection leaves a lot to be desired.

I'd like to get feedback in this thread regarding who is interested in a reproduction tread tire in 700c clincher size and what tread they would like to see produced (ie. Chain, Button, Etc.)

In your reply, please state the tread style(s)

Ideal color options.

How many pairs you could see yourself buying

An ideal (but realistic) price in mind as well.

Chain Tread
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Suction Cup
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Firestone Non-skid
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Vitalic
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Button Tread (Fisk?)
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I'll start with:

Size/Tread: 1.5" Chain, 1.5" Button
Color: Black, White
Quantity in pairs I would buy: 3
Ideal Price <$70 per tire

Please include in your reply only the above four attributes and any additional comments you have on the subject. I'd like to keep the thread as clean as possible. Approaching any manufacturer with this information will be easier if it's organized.

Thanks guys!

-Brian

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bricycle

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 18, 2009
20,401
4,715
Chicago area west
#2
Size/Tread: Suction cup 1.5", 1.5" Button, 1.5" Chain
Color: White, black
Quantity in pairs I would buy: 3
Ideal Price: <$70pr.

Also Brian.
 

bud poe

I live for the CABE
Aug 18, 2009
1,050
20
Portland, Or.
#3
Size/Tread: Suction cup 1.5", 1.5" Button, 1.5" Chain
Color: White, black
Quantity in pairs I would buy: 3
Ideal Price: <$70pr.

Also Brian.
I want to be just like Bri!
Seriously, i feel the same, 3 pairs, chains and buttons (not sure what "suction cups" are)....Oooh, how about the firestone "NON SKID" (Larmo has some OG's) in red with white sidewalls....I'd go as far as $75.00 per tire for those!
Good luck!
Bud
 

bricycle

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 18, 2009
20,401
4,715
Chicago area west
#4
I want to be just like Bri!
Seriously, i feel the same, 3 pairs, chains and buttons (not sure what "suction cups" are)....Oooh, how about the firestone "NON SKID" (Larmo has some OG's) in red with white sidewalls....I'd go as far as $75.00 per tire for those!
Good luck!
Bud
Thanks Bud.... "Suction cups" are kinda like buttons with indentations in the buttons... like an Octopuss(-'n-boots).
bri.
 

SirMike1983

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jun 27, 2008
2,906
2,283
United States
#5
I don't see any of this happening for $70 per pair of tires though. Small scale does not lend itself to economical tire making. It can be done but it strikes me as more costly. People looking to convert single tube rims on old bikes will always be a miniscule fraction of the bicycle market. Even if you brought some more people/bikes into play with clincher tires, you're still talking a niche at best. The best I see happening is a group approaching a maker and having a run of tires done, but it still would turn out to be fairly expensive.

What I do see is maybe a compromise design that is more antique friendly, but would still have some modern features in it. I just don't see the clincher version of authentic chaintreads coming out. If you're willing to compromise and do a "retro" thing, then maybe. You need to somehow grab the wider appeal to the masses of general bikers to make it down to that economical $70 per pair price. I voted yes because it would be great to have them, but I don't see it happening at that affordable price point any time soon. I'd be happy if that proved to be wrong in the end.
 
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bricycle

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 18, 2009
20,401
4,715
Chicago area west
#6
Need to get Noah and the Dean fella together and mass produce this stuff....they would put everyone else out of business if they charged reasonalby (which they do)...
 

slick

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Apr 1, 2010
4,371
1,624
Modesto,Ca.
#7
Here's my vote:

Size/Tread: 1.5" Chain, 1.5" Vitalic
Color: Black, White
Quantity in pairs I would buy: 4-5
Ideal Price <$70

This is the biggest problem with these old bikes is the tire/rim combo. I think we should also hound Velocity to keep making the P-35 in Teak also since that rim is the closest hoop to a steel clad rim or wood rim.
 

Rambler

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Nov 1, 2011
614
356
Auburn Hills, United States
#8
Size/Tread: Button Tread 1.5" or preferably smooth no tread as most 1890's era bikes had.
Color: White or preferably Light Gray as most 1890's era bikes had.
Quantity in pairs I would buy: 3
Ideal Price: <$70pr.
 

bud poe

I live for the CABE
Aug 18, 2009
1,050
20
Portland, Or.
#10
Your best bet is Coker (who does produce the "NON SKID" for antique MC's) but I agree you would need to prove there is enough of a market to justify having the tooling produced, etc...Best of luck!
 

Nick-theCut

I live for the CABE
Oct 29, 2010
1,918
114
costa mesa, CA
#11
I like the button tread in red. Not only does it rhyme, it's what was on most earlier Mead bikes. I believe they were called Hedgethorns.
The chain tread in black would also be nice.
 

rustyspoke66

Moderator
Staff member
Feb 2, 2010
3,443
576
Spokane, WA
#12
I agree with Nick on the red button tread. I have approached a tire company that mainly produces tubular tires, that way you can have a new tire on your original rims. After all if you are going to go through all the trouble of doing this you might as well do it right. They have a tire that is close in size and would just need the molds and color samples to get going. Oh and also a order for 500 tires and you have to supply the molds. So it shouldn't be a problem to get some tires made for around 35,000.00 to start and I do not see a problem selling 500 tires but it is a bit of an investment. I believe it came out to around 175.00 per set retail. I would think a guy could sell 500 say in black and then do a run in red, then in white. I would also do all of the tires in the button tread because it is the most common and crosses more years of production and you would only have to buy your molds once.
 

MOTOmike

Finally riding a big boys bike
May 9, 2012
397
93
Takoma Park, United States
#13
700c repro tires

Size/Tread: Non Skid 1.5", Chain 1.5"
Color: Brick red, White, black
Quantity in pairs I would buy: 2 or 3 pairs
Ideal Price: <$70 pr.

Mike
 

Gary Mc

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jul 5, 2011
2,297
109
Buford GA
#14
Size/Tread: either Vitalic 1.5" or Chain 1.5"
Color: Red with White side walls (these seem to appear in numerous vintage pics/ads of bikes from 1910-1930)
Quantity in pairs I would buy: 4 pairs
Ideal Price: <$100 pr. but I would be willing to fork over $150.00 per tire if someone would make 700 cc exact replicas

My alternative right now are cream Electra Amsterdams. Have 2 project bikes in the works, both 1930 model Westfield made bikes in Columbia Carmine paint with white head tubes/darts that the red/white combination would really set off.
 

pelletman

I live for the CABE
Mar 15, 2008
1,063
213
Massachusetts, United States
#17
I'd prefer chain, I'd like to also see smooth, but I'll take anything! I think $150 a pair is reasonable. Black first. I would buy lots over my lifetime and I'd take 5 sets immediately if not sooner
 

Krautwaggen

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
May 24, 2010
3,241
797
Bloomington, United States
#19
Have a look at Sheldon's site. What type of "28 inch" tire are you talking about. If you have a singe tube type rim you cannot use a 700c clincher but may get away using a 700c tubular

sheldonbrown.com/tire-sizing.html
 

Larmo63

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Aug 17, 2010
4,356
452
San Clemente, Ca
#20
I agree with many here....I would like to see many variations, but white, or grey buttons, suctions,

and/or plain/no treads would be my first choice(s). There is a dearth in the market for these tires

and somebody needs to step up to the plate. I think $70-95 a tire is more realistic.

We would buy at least five pairs right off of the bat.
 
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