I believe a Speedster or other camel back frame has straight bars for the seat stay, where as a Manta Ray's is curved (as in the black bike photo). Same goes for a 20" Speedster vs. Fastback.It's likely a Racer or Speedster that's been converted. Cool, but not big money cool!
Good catch. Someone had told me both frames were the same, but I think the speedster has a longer wheelbase too. I have this one and had to go check it.I believe a Speedster or other camel back frame has straight bars for the seat stay, where as a Manta Ray's is curved (as in the black bike photo). Same goes for a 20" Speedster vs. Fastback.
Hey there Metacortex. Please peep the info I just included when you get a chance. Let me know your thoughts. Peace!Note that the Manta-Ray was available only in a 5-speed model for '71, and only as a coaster brake or 5-speed in '72. There were no 3-speed Mantas and It was never available in black.
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Hey there 383camino. If you get a chance, please peep the info I shared when you get a chance. Let me know what you think. Thanks!I believe a Speedster or other camel back frame has straight bars for the seat stay, where as a Manta Ray's is curved (as in the black bike photo). Same goes for a 20" Speedster vs. Fastback.
Hey there 383camino. If you get a chance, please peep the info I shared when you get a chance. Let me know what you think. Thanks!
And I never would have guessed that. Thanks for the info Shawn (even if it did burst my bubble a bit). If anyone knows, the Georgia guy should! Thanks again sir. Peace!The bike is a repaint. Those Clyde Dunaway decals are sold on Ebay. V/r Shawn
Thanks for the photo and info. I actually have a shifter (would need the rear hub of course) but plan on putting it on there eventually. And yes, the seat seems to be ghostly (aka hard as heck to find and quite costly). At any rate, this is a super cool clone, I enjoy it, and I suppose in the grand scheme of things, all that matters. Cheers and happy riding!Be careful what you are getting into here.. Even though this has been repainted black there are many things wrong with it. One of the first things I look for is whether or not it has the correct wheels, mag sprocket, fenders, seat, and of course the shifter is incorrect. The seat and the shifter will cost you dearly to make correct.
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About a year ago I met a co worker who collects balloners. When I told him I have a 24" Speedster he told me I could convert this to a Manta. Its been over 40 years since I owned one but told him I think the speedster is stretched/longer. Then saw the post here ... thought maybe it could be. 383camino pointed out the rear struts have a radius, while the speedsters are straight. So I looked at the picture of mine and sure enough. Something else, the mantas end parallel with the top bar the speedsters don't. Can you tell us what the wheelbase is? Its 39" on a speedsterI didn't really understand the above comment about the speedster frame similarities/differences. Thanks again for all of the input and help. Cheers!