another id this one

[kccomet]

hawthorne badged, curious of maker...thanks for any input

 

[catfish]

Davis ?

 

[Archie Sturmer]

Might have a New York look, with those oval shaped chain stays at the bottom bracket crank hanger?
Resembles pictures in the 1923 catalog, (left hand side/even page).

Not sure if the forks are a good match?

What is the serial number?

 

[kccomet]

Davis seems like a good guess

 

[chitown]

HP Snyder looking chainring. Fork may be a replacement as most motobikes had truss rods.

 

[SKPC]

Seat/chain stay/bridge photos and serial number image as well would tie it down perhaps? Below is one close with a different fork seen here awhile back but never ID'd...could be early Westfield?

And this one...

And this.

Unfortunately, these three bikes as examples with the fore/aft fishmouth joinery did NOT have the maker ID'd...may have to go through the Hawthorne Deluxe/Flyer thread to find out..

WHO MADE TEENS HAWTHORNE DELUXE? | Antique Bicycles Pre-1933

Hi, can anyone tell me who made the teens Wards Hawthorne Deluxe motobike please? (Not the Hawthorne flyer as it’s a different frame) And what other badged bikes were the same? I’m pretty sure I have the identical frame but the badge screws are vertical On mine and the deluxe holes are...

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[Late To The Party]

I have come to understand that Snyder started in 1914 using a letter before the serial beginning with A. The H seen in this pic from the prevous post would thus be for 1921. The 8 digit matches the font of the 8 in the serial on my Snyder archbar that I just figured out has an E for 1918. If we could see a shot of this subjects serial we may be able to make a positive ID. Of course I may be totally wrong, so please correct me if I am.

 

[Archie Sturmer]

Those figures are usually kind of guestimates based on not reverse-engineering, but just counting back the years in reverse, and remembering one’s alphabet.
But what difference does a year or two matter between fellow members of the CABE!