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rollfaster

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Dec 28, 2012
8,510
53
Ol' st. Lou
mystery bike

i recently seen an iver johnson have looks very close to this bike.
 

fat tire trader

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Oct 29, 2010
3,030
San Quentin, California
www.fattiretrading.com
That is interesting. This bike does not have Iver cranks and bottom bracket, nor the Iver style fork. I'm not sure what year they started making their cranks. I'll have to study my Iver catalogs and photos of Ivers online.
Thanks,
Chris
 

Iverider

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
May 24, 2010
3,369
Bloomington, United States
The rear dropouts don't look Iver except for their nicely finished appearance. The adjuster hole on an Iver is drilled into the forging rather than stamped. This frame looks more like an early Westfield built frame. The chainring is Fauber and is commonly found on Great Western Mfg. bicycles of the era, but the rear dropouts don't match that of a Crown bicycle either.

You can access a mess of Iver catalogs online if you want to verify. The oldest in my sig line has the closest rear dropout in appearance but they are still different.

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fat tire trader

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Oct 29, 2010
3,030
San Quentin, California
www.fattiretrading.com
The Pattee appears to have a collet type seat post cluster instead of a expanding seat post. In addition the fork, which is hard to see in the picture looks like it has a crown with a spear point on the fork blade, while mine has a triple plate fork crown. My fork is nickel plated. By the way, the lock smith finished the lock on my Flowcycle and just called to tell me that the lock on my BSA is done, so they will have room to work on one of your bikes after I pick up the BSA this morning.
Thanks!
Chris
 

fordsnake

I live for the CABE
May 12, 2010
1,825
Chris, the Patee bike looks a lot like yours? I never discern a bikes DNA by a quill, handlebars, pedals, or a seat post collet...these items could've been changed or removed to the owners discretion once the bike left the dealer. Many high-end bikes from the 1890's came with the expanding seat clamp, or added as an aftermarket upgrade. It was not proprietary to any particular brand or model.

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Regarding the Patee's fork: they did come with the triple plate fork.

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Cool about the keys...next week I'll drop off my Flocycle and Wingbar.
 
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fat tire trader

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Oct 29, 2010
3,030
San Quentin, California
www.fattiretrading.com
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Namaste,
Well, I still don't know what kind of bike this is. Someone recently posted pics of a bike that looks very similar. Which he claims to be a 1901 Indian. So, I asked my Indian Bicycle Guru. The leading light of Indian Bicycles tells me that it is not possible that it is a 1901 Indian, he said that he doubts that it is even an Indian from a different year. But as the pundit says, "we are all here to learn".

http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?54707-OK-who-collects-early-racing-bikes/page2

See posts 12 and 13

Patric, aka hoofhearted asked me to take more pictures, so I took more pics and added them to the page.
Look here

http://www.fattiretrading.com/1906mystery.html
 
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Blue Streak

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 4, 2015
241
Erie PA
The rear drop outs and seat post binder system look like Tribune. Fork and crank assembly are not Tribune. Are there holes in fork neck for a name badge. Is there a serial number on bottom of frame under crank?
 
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