As - Thor 5-speed. My latest mystery


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juvela

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Thanks so much for the update.

These latest pictures show your hammer god to be clean as a whistle! Nice work.

Question regarding frame's brake bridge -

notice that rear brake caliper arm does not rest parallel to seat stay. wonder if bridge mounted with mounting hole for caliper non-perpendicular to seat stay. is mounting bolt straight? sometimes mounting hole can be noticeably larger in diameter than mounting bolt allowing for some "woggle."

Since you purchased the cycle in Belgium you know that it is a two language and two culture society. The bicycle's threading and writing tell us that the manufacturer falls on the francophone side of the divide - a Walloon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walloons

Most Belgian cycle manufacturers/businesses seem to fall on the Flemische side of the divide.


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juvela

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Au Sujet De Nord Royal -

one o' me favourite marques!

the Garage Indesteege bicycle I posted images of back in post number seven of this thread is a Royal Nord product. it carries a "RN" transfer for Royal Nord on its seat tube. note also the belgian national rampant lion symbol in the transfers. this comes from the national crest and is seen on both Royal Nord and Garage Indesteege transfers. the Garage Indesteege town is Landen which is right next to Hasselt, home of Royal Nord. Red bicycle is child model Royal Nord. Next to last image shows a Royal Nord wearing a Garage Indesteege similar transfer. Final image Belgium Coat Of Arms.
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Garage Indesteege St Christopher transfer b) .jpg
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3-speeder

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Saw this chained up while I was working downtown. Thinking I remember seeing a 73 stamping on the seat tube? Nay, seat lug.
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juvela

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Thanks very much.

The Nord France marque bears no connection to the Royal Nord.

"73 marking on seat tube" if on seat lug refers to the angle between the lug's two sockets...not a date.

BTW - Nord France is a "real" marque, not a contract badge.

Here are a couple pages from a manufacturer's brochure giving address and contact information (pre-internet :D):

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[materials roughly six years later than subject cycle. subject machine's chainset, gear ensemble & saddle are later additions.]

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rhm

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I realize this thread is pretty old... but...

If the fork crown was made by Ekla, you may see the word EKLA in the casting on the underside of the crown. You'll have to remove the fender to see that, of course; and even so, I make no promises.

If you're still looking for an appropriate saddle, I have some Ideale saddles from the 50's that I've put new leather on. Not quite as appropriate as a Belgian saddle, but closer than a modern Brooks.

Rudi
 

3-speeder

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#48
I realize this thread is pretty old... but...

If the fork crown was made by Ekla, you may see the word EKLA in the casting on the underside of the crown. You'll have to remove the fender to see that, of course; and even so, I make no promises.

If you're still looking for an appropriate saddle, I have some Ideale saddles from the 50's that I've put new leather on. Not quite as appropriate as a Belgian saddle, but closer than a modern Brooks.

Rudi
Thanks for the information. As far as the saddle goes that would be great. I'll send you a pm. Thank you.
 

sam

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Seems all the French headbadges have the word "Deposse" on them what does it mean?
 

juvela

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Seems all the French headbadges have the word "Deposse" on them what does it mean?
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The usual phrase is "marque depose" which translates to the English "Trademark"/"Registered Trademark."

In other words a name is legally owned by someone for business purposes.


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Oops, I see 3-speeder beat me to it. ;)

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3-speeder

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Cool headbadge. I found some info about Thor brand when I was researching my bike but hadn't seen this. Thanks for sharing.
 

juvela

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think I forgot to mention -

am a member at a Belgian bike forum and checked the archives there to see if the AS -Thor badge had ever been discussed and the result was zero entries. so think we can safely say that is one rare marque you have there. ;)


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3-speeder

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I've been so curious about this bike. Could never find any information about As-Thor other than what you've shared. Is the 7 stamped under the bottom bracket the serial number? Makes ya wonder. Thanks Juvela
 

juvela

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#58
I've been so curious about this bike. Could never find any information about As-Thor other than what you've shared. Is the 7 stamped under the bottom bracket the serial number? Makes ya wonder. Thanks Juvela

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Can make no statement of certitude.

A single character marking on a frame such as a letter, number or symbol can sometimes indicate the worker who actually produced the frame.

Do not wish to assert that here; mention it only as possibility.

Another thing it can sometimes indicate is the plant which produced the product, as in the case of a large producer with more than one facility. An application which would seen unlikely in this case... ;)

A third possibility is that it could represent the mark of an inspector. For example, it might be procedure that frames were inspected after brazing and prior to moving on to plating and painting. Each inspector would have a mark identifying them specifically.

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