Badges, we don't need no stinkin badges!

[Balloontyre]

Not sure this frame ever had a badge, no shadow of decal, or screw holes. Frame has no markings or numbers. Is this a familiar maker to anyone?
Thanks.

 

[fat tire trader]

I don't know what it is, but I'd like to know. I have a fork with that style crown which is open on the bottom like the one on your bike. I don't think that there were a lot of companies making cotterless cranks in the 1890s.

 

[Balloontyre]

Better shot of crank arm.

 

[bricycle]

check with Carlton, he helped me with a similar color/fancy trim bike of mine.

 

[Mungthetard]

Not sure this frame ever had a badge, no shadow of decal, or screw holes. Frame has no markings or numbers. Is this a familiar maker to anyone?
Thanks.

I Have the same chain ring not the crank arms but if it helps it came from a prewar rollfast

 

[fordsnake]

WOW. what a beautiful step through! Gold filigree was prevalent on many high end bicycles around the late 1800's. Additionally, the large 1.25 tubing, the 5-star chainring and the drop shoulder nickeled fork was not proprietary to any manufacturer. There were a lot of jobbers and suppliers of bikes prior to the ABC Trust. That head tube collar suggests it had a one piece- non adjustable handlebar? If I were to take a wild guess, it could be a Hoffman or a Crosby?

 

[Balloontyre]

Yes, fixed bars. Specific for the locking nut. The seat post has the same type of set up with the slotted stem.

 

[Balloontyre]

For sale, $250 shipped USA. MO, check, cash, paypal $263.00
Handle bars included.

 

[Rhcap]

I know

I believe that this is an 1897 Independent made by Rochester Cycle Company. I have one with the same original coloring and gold detail. It is a beautiful, well made bike. I am missing a part. Could you please send me a photo and dimensions of the metal expander nut in the seat post? Thanks. If you have any other questions about the bike, I am happy to answer.
Rob

 

[Balloontyre]

Seat post expander

I believe that this is an 1897 Independent made by Rochester Cycle Company. I have one with the same original coloring and gold detail. It is a beautiful, well made bike. I am missing a part. Could you please send me a photo and dimensions of the metal expander nut in the seat post? Thanks. If you have any other questions about the bike, I am happy to answer.
Rob

Thank you for the info on the bike. Agreed, it's a well made bike.
here's the photos, looks to me 11/32" at height of barrel, 3/4" x 3/4" domed nut. Wheels not included in price.