Black Phantom...original? I don't know...

[HARPO]

A guy is selling this as an original, but the tank decal is wrong for anything but a 1959 model...but then the chain guard decal is wrong for a 1959. He said that the letter in the Serial number is "D" which I think makes it a 1952. I'm totally confused.

What do you experts think?

 

[HARPO]

To much money for me at $1,000 even if it is mostly real.

 

[ballooney]

Looks like the left half of the tank is not original to the bike...as you noted has the '59 decal. Everything else seems to be legit except for the recovered seat.

 

[HARPO]

Looks like the left half of the tank is not original to the bike...as you noted has the '59 decal. Everything else seems to be legit except for the recovered seat.

Thank you! In the real world, what would be a fair price for this?

 

[ballooney]

Thank you! In the real world, what would be a fair price for this?

I would think in the $600-700 range would be fair. In essence you need a tank and a seat to make it correct.


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[ballooney]

Maybe under that vinyl is the original leather?


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[HARPO]

He said "$900 is as low as I would go" the other day. I said "thank you very much anyway". And thank you for opinion and summation of the bike.

At least I know it's almost all real. Now if he would just come down to $600...

 

[GTs58]

He said "$900 is as low as I would go" the other day. I said "thank you very much anyway". And thank you for opinion and summation of the bike.

At least I know it's almost all real. Now if he would just come down to $600...

Do a Phantom search in the classifieds here and see what you get for $900.

 

[Freqman1]

Despite the faults I think $900 is a very fair price for this bike. V/r Shawn

 

[HARPO]

My wife is OK with me buying bikes, she really is, knowing that some of them go off to another home. However...convincing her that I want to spend $900 on a bike I intend to keep is suicide, lol...

 

[phantom]

It isn't a 59 but a pretty nice bike for $900 compared to what you see listed for $1,300 - $1,600 or so....I think it's worth what he is asking. Come up a hundred and ask him to come down a hundred. Locally I would be all over it.

 

[Freqman1]

My girlfriend would be estatic if all I spent was $900 on a bike!

 

[HARPO]

My girlfriend would be estatic if all I spent was $900 on a bike!

Lucky You! But I'm 68, and she sees no need for this Hobby that takes up so much room.

Hey, I had a high of 52 bikes at one point. I'm down to just about 30 or so now.

 

[HARPO]

It isn't a 59 but a pretty nice bike for $900 compared to what you see listed for $1,300 - $1,600 or so....I think it's worth what he is asking. Come up a hundred and ask him to come down a hundred. Locally I would be all over it.

Figured out it's a '52.

 

[phantom]

Lucky You! But I'm 68, and she sees no need for this Hobby that takes up so much room.

Hey, I had a high of 52 bikes at one point. I'm down to just about 30 or so now.

At 68 I'd tell my girlfriend I have lived long enough to do what I want to do. She would have a choice not me.

 

[Robert Troub]

At 68 I'd tell my girlfriend I have lived long enough to do what I want to do. She would have a choice not me.

right? lmao

 

[Nashman]

At 68 I'd tell my girlfriend I have lived long enough to do what I want to do. She would have a choice not me.

Sounds like a conversation my G/F and I had about a week ago, just before my '37 Dayton showed up. Then I went out and bought a vintage 1963 Fender Tremolux amplifier following an Ebay purchase of a Gibson Les Paul guitar. Last count ( it's not a race/contest, I can't help myself, no one else will?) 21 bicycles, 11 guitars, 5 amps and I'm only 63. Do you think I made my point? I made my choice.

Some pics under comment #24. Please don't think I'm "boasting" about my insanity to buy neat stuff, or what I have because that's not my intent. I've been at this about 40 years/finally retired, and my stuff is a fraction of what some people have, can afford, or justify. I drive ( I do have a nice '57 Nash) a 2005 rusted Chev Venture van, and live a pretty simple life, just spent what I have on cool stuff. I think many can relate. At the end of the day, it's just "stuff" and I'd sell it in a minute to help family/friends needs if it came to that. Health and Love and freedom in your life is what's valuable.

Sunday's Show and Tell ...10/18/20 | General Discussion About Old Bicycles

. Very nice !!!!

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[HARPO]

At 68 I'd tell my girlfriend I have lived long enough to do what I want to do. She would have a choice not me.

Lol...you don't think you'll be married by 68?!

 

[BFGforme]

Lol...you don't think you'll be married by 68?!

Possible divorced a few times also....

 

[cyclonecoaster.com]

A 1959 Phantom would have the bolt through springer not the earlier version as this bicycle does - and the serial number would be on the rear dropout ..