"Bottle Cap" badges

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  1. #1 Posted Jan 15, 2017

    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    I've come across something recently that has peaked my interest regarding the usage of "bottle cap" badge attachment versus conventional screws. I knew that Dayton and Davis used it, but seems Miami did as well? Are there any other manufacturers known to? I won't pick up this item for a week or so, so I'm going to hold off posting pics until it is in my possession. Thanks in advance for any info. Mike.
     
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    Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline

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    When you say "Dayton" I assume you are referring to the Huffman brand. Davis also built a Dayton model. So the three manufacturers, off the top of my head, would be Davis, Miami, and Huffman which would include badges of Dayton (both Davis and Huffman), Harley Davidson, Racycle, Flying Merkel, and other Miami built machines. I'm sure Ed or Patric could expand on this. V/r Shawn
     
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    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    I've got a nice Excelsior made bottle cap Elgin. I'll get a pic if anyone is interested.
     
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    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    Please post pics!
     
  5. #5 Posted Jan 15, 2017

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    Also Yale. I have a few other bottle cap badges that were store bands. But I belive were used on Davis built bikes as well.

     
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    Riding an Alexander Rocket Bike

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    These are bottle caps. No screw holes. Sorry i don't have photos of the back right now. 15644546_10209834120481231_1910193687_n.jpg
     
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    Riding an Alexander Rocket Bike

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    Here is a Yale. Most of the bottle cap is gone. $_fff57.JPG $fff_57.jpg
     
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    Here is an Elgin bottle cap badge.
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    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    I've seen Huffman stuff with Bottle Cap badges as late as 39-40
    I've never found anyone who knows why some are bottle caps and some not.
     
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    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    So according to Patric,"ace" & foxclassics we can add Excelsior to the list of manufacturers that used "bottlecap" badges? I have what I believe to be an Excelsior built Elgin project that uses the conventional screw/rivet type badge. Any rhyme or reason to any of this?

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    Saint Lactose The Tolerant

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    Here is a Huffman Dayton badge that was issued
    1934 thru '39 - '40.

    It is now in the John Atkinson collection.

    HUFFMAN Dayton Badge OCT. 1934-mid to late 1939 COPY.png
     
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    Saint Lactose The Tolerant

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    Fordmike65 ... I have seen the Elgin badge .. with screwholes ...
    also issued on a Davis-Built.

    Can see no rhyme nor reason as to the variations.

     
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    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    Luckily I had a good friend visit this weekend who agreed to pick up the bike in question on his way down to SoCal. So far I'm pretty sure it is indeed Excelsior built. Electrified tank looks like it's been on the bike for some time, even though I don't believe it's original to it. I have another set of bars to replace what I believe are later ones. Looks like a handmade trussrod upper mount, so I'm on the lookout for an original piece. I'm hoping it'll clean up some, but I'm good if I can just get it back on the road again. If anyone has any additional info on it, please feel free to post here. Thanks in advance for any help. Big shout out to Bricycle & Patric for their help so far:)
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  17. #17 Posted Feb 6, 2017

    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    Great bike Mike!!
     
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    Prolly a 1923, don't think that year came with a tank
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    image.png Hey Cliff! It looks like the answer to the million dollar question is right in front of our eyes!
     
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  20. #20 Posted Feb 7, 2017

    Riding a '37 Colson Imperial

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    Thanks for posting up the ad Cliff! This might be the bike, but those look like painted wood wheels. This has crusty wood clad wheels with a model C, so thinking it might be a couple years later? Maybe I can finally make it to your local motorbike ride this year!