BSA Racing Bicycle with Wood Rims, I could use your educated help, please.


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bass4cash

Look Ma, No Hands!
Apr 30, 2014
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I am not very knowledgeable about bicycles, but I am trying to learn. I recently "picked" a very nice and unique bicycle that I think is something special. I would greatly appreciate any information the members may be able to provide me with. The bicycle is a very lightweight BSA Racing bicycle with wooden rims. It has BSA on the racing pedals and the sprocket. It has a number tag attached and a seat that says "Sylvia" France, I do not think this was original to the bike. The bike is a men's bike, yellow in color with red pin striping. It is in outstanding condition. Any ideas of age and value? I appreciate any input you may give.
 

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detroitbike

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Sep 26, 2011
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1920-30's . Block chain , Major Taylor stem. Doesn't look like the original fork.
Lots of BSA was used pre WW2
BSA was like campagnolo today; a manufacturer of parts found on many racing
bikes in the day. Definitely a board track racer. I'd est as shown 1200-1500 + depending
if you have provenance
 

bass4cash

Look Ma, No Hands!
Apr 30, 2014
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#3
1920-30's . Block chain , Major Taylor stem. Doesn't look like the original fork.
Lots of BSA was used pre WW2
BSA was like campagnolo today; a manufacturer of parts found on many racing
bikes in the day. Definitely a board track racer. I'd est as shown 1200-1500 + depending
if you have provenance
Thank you for that
 

dubsey55

Look Ma, No Hands!
Apr 17, 2010
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Nice early racer. Thats NOT block chain, just regular skiptooth. Do your research, on here and everywhere,and you will eventually find out builder. Great find! Walter in NJ
 

detroitbike

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Sep 26, 2011
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Nice early racer. Thats NOT block chain, just regular skiptooth. Do your research, on here and everywhere,and you will eventually find out builder. Great find! Walter in NJ
1" Pitch BLOCK chain as used on at least a dozen + of my WW2
track Paramount's ...
BTW Every Block chain is SKIPTOOTH
Do your research .........
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walter branche

I live for the CABE
Dec 12, 2006
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1 inch pitch

IT IS 1 INCH PITCH BLOCK CHAIN , IT IS NOT 1 INCH PITCH ROLLER CHAIN . SKIPTOOTH IS A MADE UP WORD USED IN THE BICYCLE WORLD , NEVER IN ANY VINTAGE ADVERTISING HAVE i EVER SEEN THE WORD SKIPTOOTH ,
 

bass4cash

Look Ma, No Hands!
Apr 30, 2014
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nice bike, whats the story on finding it. is it for sale
I own an antique store, but bicycles is not where most of my knowledge lies. I was picking a gentlemans home who has one of the nicest collections of classic cars, motorcycles and toys you will ever see. While there I stumbled on this wonderful bicycle. It is for sales as soon as I determine a fair market value . I will appreciate all the feedback I can receive. I will also post it here first for users of this site to have first opportunity to purchase. Thanks for the input.
 

schwinnderella

Finally riding a big boys bike
Sep 21, 2009
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1" Pitch BLOCK chain as used on at least a dozen + of my WW2
track Paramount's ...
BTW Every Block chain is SKIPTOOTH
Do your research .........
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I am aware that racers favored block chains for their racing bikes believing it was stronger than roller chain. I was not aware that block chain was stock on pre war paramounts as the above post seems to say. Is it true that pre war paramounts were deliverd with block chain?
 

sam

I live for the CABE
May 24, 2006
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San Antonio, United States
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I own an antique store, but bicycles is not where most of my knowledge lies. I was picking a gentlemans home who has one of the nicest collections of classic cars, motorcycles and toys you will ever see. While there I stumbled on this wonderful bicycle. It is for sales as soon as I determine a fair market value . I will appreciate all the feedback I can receive. I will also post it here first for users of this site to have first opportunity to purchase. Thanks for the input.
The history behind this bike would add to the value, I think. So if the seller knows anything about it worth getting that info too.
 

corbettclassics

I live for the CABE
Feb 11, 2012
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Great bike! Looks like it could be a BSA frame. Your in luck as information is plentiful for these bikes . Parts are fairly easy to get to.

Here is some background on bsa .... http://www.gracesguide.co.uk/BSA:_Bicycles

Here is a 1940's version - yours is earlier for sure. http://www.bikecult.com/works/collections/bsatrkpg.html

This is not a BSA bicycle either. They listed it as one but, it's not.

The reason that bike has BSA on the head tube is, many bike manufacturers back in
the day would use BSA components and would apply the sticker on the head tube
to show it has BSA parts. Joseph Kopsky did it this way too.

And I don't think the yellow bike spoken on this thread is a BSA. The dropouts seem
very wrong to me. As do the forks and everything else about the bike. I'm about
100% positive this is not a BSA. I believe Hilary Stone has a write up about BSA
and you will see there a little more info about the BSA bike.
 

filmonger

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Dec 25, 2010
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Ummm you would know best Corrbettclassics - BSA was used by Jobbers all over the world.....

Here is a picture of a 1927 BSA

Im090625LM-BSA-1927.jpg
 
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bass4cash

Look Ma, No Hands!
Apr 30, 2014
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This is not a BSA bicycle either. They listed it as one but, it's not.

The reason that bike has BSA on the head tube is, many bike manufacturers back in
the day would use BSA components and would apply the sticker on the head tube
to show it has BSA parts. Joseph Kopsky did it this way too.

And I don't think the yellow bike spoken on this thread is a BSA. The dropouts seem
very wrong to me. As do the forks and everything else about the bike. I'm about
100% positive this is not a BSA. I believe Hilary Stone has a write up about BSA
and you will see there a little more info about the BSA bike.
I appreciate everyone's input on this bike. As expected, there are a wide range of opinions as to the make of this bicycle. Some believe it is an original BSA bike, due to the nickel plated fork, pedals and sprocket. I also saw these same handle bars on an original BSA while searching. That's a large part of the bike. The original yellow paint with hand painted striping, the wooden rims and racing badge all make this a very cool and unique bicycle. By the way, it is extremely light as well. I am working on getting it to an expert who can lay hands on it. I will leave this bicycle intact and unchanged.
 

filmonger

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Dec 25, 2010
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corbettclassics

I live for the CABE
Feb 11, 2012
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Upon closer examination I also agree with the others - I think you can see the slight differences based on the pictures below. Best of luck to you! BSA Parts are still fairly easy to obtain here.

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Another Cabe link to a 1927 BSA special racer

http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?29829-1928-BSA-Special-Road-Racer

1920/21 BSA Cat.
http://oldbike.wordpress.com/12-19201921-bsa-brochure/

More info

https://bsaownermuseum.wordpress.com/bsa-sersan-mayor/

Great pic of a '27 BSA - you can see the lugs, seat cluster etc ……

I'm still pretty sure the yellow bike is not a BSA bike though.

Here's an example of "Kopsky" using the BSA decal on the head tube on his bikes.

bsakopskyspecialROSSIbg.JPG
 

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