Like the last time I tried it, there is simply no way to mount the rack with the arms attached. I can attach the front to the seatpost bolt with an extension down and I can attach the back to stay hooked to the center, freeing that when bulbs or work needs to be done. The arms had to go. It will work okay that way though. I have a good bit of stuff to do before it gets attached though. When I took paperboys off Germaine I could mount the rack like it was supposed to be. I have still got plans to build a support cage incorporating the rack so that I can install my dark green Honda Gold Wing Aspencade panniers with locks, which I had custom striped in place of the Honda Aspencade badges to read Germaine on the back in a similar script as the Aspncade logo. I really need to get it figured out though. It's getting colder at night. Tempest is not a winter ride, I have to cover her over and keep her preserved. Germaine is my winter bike, baskets or not. The days when I can work outside and enjoy all my bikes are getting shorter. I'll do what I can this month and use her without messing her up.