Cleveland Welding S/N Project?


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DX Shirey

On Training Wheels
Feb 18, 2015
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1
Folsom, United States
Any help appreciated on identifying the year of my CWC bike? Serial# looks to be F28095. It is not badged either, so unsure if it's actually a Roadmaster, Western Flyer, etc. Thanks for any thoughts and input!
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szathmarig

I live for the CABE
Nov 20, 2014
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It's a Roadmaster because Western Flyers have different chainrings. Does it have black out hubs? because the frame has lesser curve on the down tube, and no tangs for a drop stand on the chain stays, which makes it 42-45. The fork has early 50's springs, and bumper truss rods that are not correct. There is something wrong about the rack too, because it should be mounted to the seat post clamp. Wrong grips.
 

DX Shirey

On Training Wheels
Feb 18, 2015
8
1
Folsom, United States
Thanks for giving it a look over. It actually looks to be somewhat pieced together. The front fender, chainguard, fork and frame all look to have original matching paint (although someone in it's past has taken sandpaper to the back half of the frame). The rear fender correct in being peaked, but not the same red as other pieces.
And, I know the rack is also not original (could be early 50's as well?). It does not have wartime black-out hubs, but are New Departure Model D hubs which I think are correct for the early 40's era. Lastly, the badge holes are 2 5/8's inches apart, but the holes on the Roadmaster badge I have are about 3 inches apart. So...
 

DX Shirey

On Training Wheels
Feb 18, 2015
8
1
Folsom, United States
I agree on the front fender being painted by a previous owner and the rear being an original burgundy color, but the frame looks like it could be original red. Definitely better quality than the front fender. Here is a close up.
The shorter head badge screw distance is still the mystery and makes me think the frame wasn't an original Roadmaster, but maybe a CWC build for one of it's other company bike lines...?
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tfrentz

On Training Wheels
Mar 10, 2017
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My serial#: A91207 Badge says Cleveland Welding Roadmaster

What year do you think this is? A should rep an early production right?
I'm wondering what length of chain and how many links to look for when buying. Mine is missing the chain.
Any other links to find a skiptooth other than eBay?

thank you.

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Jeff54

I live for the CABE
Sep 11, 2013
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My serial#: A91207 Badge says Cleveland Welding Roadmaster

What year do you think this is? A should rep an early production right?
I'm wondering what length of chain and how many links to look for when buying. Mine is missing the chain.
Any other links to find a skiptooth other than eBay?

thank you.

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Late 40's to early 50's. You'll need to look past the serial numbers, near edge of bottom bracket, for a big C with small w inside of it. What letter or number precedes the Cw stamp. If numbers such as; 51,52, 53 etc, than that's the year, if letter or no letter but Cw stamp then list that.

Your rear dropout and bars, for the curved bottom section indicate this time frame whereas post[edit] Pre-war, war will not be curved.
 
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Vincer

Finally riding a big boys bike
Feb 7, 2012
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I don't have any photos yet to post but recently acquired what I believe to be a 1948/49 Roadmaster. The serial number is C58106. Is there anyone that can confirm that this serial number is consistent with one of these years. Thanks in advance.
 

Oilit

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Dec 30, 2015
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I have two of these bikes, a rough one and a nice one, both AMF Roadmaster Flying Falcons (middleweights). I read on this thread that AMF moved Roadmaster from Cleveland to little Rock in 1956, but the rough one is clearly stamped "56 CW", so that means it was built in Cleveland, correct? The number on the nicer one is a lot lighter, and if there's a year stamp, I don't see it. But it still has the "Masterweld - Cleveland Welding" sticker on the down tube, so I'm guessing (hoping) it's still a CWC built bike. Also, the connections between the bottom bracket and the frame seem to have a lot more brazing on the nicer one, but it looks like some of the original paint is still on the brass. Could this have been a factory repair?
And, is there an easy to tell a Cleveland Roadmaster from the Little Rock version?
At full enlargement of the picture, the nice one's serial number looks like "D17905", and the "D" and the "5" look like they were double stamped. I appreciate any information you can share.

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Kajun72

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Apr 28, 2017
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Well just picked this up this afternoon. What I was told 1950's AMF Roadster PaceMaker. Ok it has a 19 " frame, 26 " tires, expanding seat post, no clamp. Has an extra ear on rear drop out for fender mounting. Bendix coaster brake in rear. Handle bars are not original. Roadmaster badge is faded. Serial # B37972 G on BB. I will take proper photos in the morning. This photo is from CL. Anyone have any ideas when is was made?

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mrg

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
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Don't think AMF had bought Roadmaster in 50 and with those rear dropouts and upper fender bridge its late 50's, 56 or 57 middle weight porobably
 

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