Cleveland Welding S/N Project?

Discussion in 'Classic Balloon Tire Bicycles 1933-1965' started by AntonyR, May 23, 2008.

  1. #361 Posted May 10, 2017

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    Well just picked this up this afternoon. What I was told 1950's AMF Roadster PaceMaker. Ok it has a 19 " frame, 26 " tires, expanding seat post, no clamp. Has an extra ear on rear drop out for fender mounting. Bendix coaster brake in rear. Handle bars are not original. Roadmaster badge is faded. Serial # B37972 G on BB. Anyone have any ideas when is was made?[/QUOTE]


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  2. #362 Posted May 10, 2017

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    When I first posted mine under the "Middleweights" section, @Adamtinkerer said that frame style was made between 1955 and 1957, and I believe he's right, as best as I can tell.
     
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    And it looks like the chrome on yours ought to clean up nice!
     
  4. #364 Posted May 10, 2017

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Can you post a picture of the serial number?

    That frame style came out mid 1954, and stopped in 1957 I believe.
     
  5. #365 Posted May 10, 2017

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Correct, the "56Cw" stamp means 1956. The other appears to have a light "5" after, look at it from different angles and see if you can see the next number.
     
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  6. #366 Posted May 15, 2017

    Look Ma, No Hands!

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    Serial #B22050 Is this OG paint scheme if so what model & year thanks ?

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    Is there a head badge? Or the outline of one? If there's no outline, I'd guess it was repainted.
     
  8. #368 Posted Jun 3, 2017

    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    That frame was only made in 36-37, and it was probably badged as Roadmaster.
     
  9. #369 Posted Jun 4, 2017

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    With a "B" serial, your frame is definitely a 1937. However, that style double bar roadster frame was used in 39 as well with model 0226-S

    For some reason, this style frame seems to be missing from the 38 offerings in a 19" seat mast.
     
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  10. #370 Posted Jun 4, 2017
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    Does it have a offset crank housing like the #A's and I have see a few different badges, I have ones with WF, Speed & Roadmaster.
     
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    Mark,
    I believe only the "A" serial would have the offset.

    Both 36 examples that I own as well as your 36 example have the offset.
     
  12. #372 Posted Jun 5, 2017
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    Cruisin' on my Bluebird

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    All 4 of my #A have offset cranks (and yours), just wondering if it stops there for sure, anyone have a #B?
     
  13. #373 Posted Jun 5, 2017

    I live for the CABE

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    I'm guessing 1940-ish on this G serial Monkey Warts? It's got ears.

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  14. #374 Posted Jun 26, 2017

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    IMG_3265.JPG IMG_3266.JPG Can I please get some help on dating this frame ?? These confuse me! Thanks guys. Hawthorne badged..
     
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    I live for the CABE

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    That was easier than most are. F dates in the 36 area. And WTH? it's Blue too. I thought it be burgundy or brown. matched color of rear rack too? Check your hub for dates too.


     
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    Yes the fenders rack and frame are all matching. Same blue. I will look at the rear hub and see if I can tell what the date is. Thanks man for your help.
     
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    image.jpg image.jpg image.jpg Can't find any date codes though? And the front hub I can't see any writing
     
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    F serial puts it as a 1940 built bike. No dropstand ears, curved fender braces and chain stays agree.
     
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    Thank you sir:)
     
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    Yeah what junky said, ZE52414. I'm forgetting, as I have I think was told is 40-41 girl and crazy unusable serial numbers and straight dropout bars with drop stand ears so, this period gets corn-fussing, a grey area. especially as, another caber has a G letter, with morrow brake and hubs dated 36, so frame is presuming 36 too and almost the same paint scheme except it's got another pinstripe on fenders , red, out lining the white. . . I had to refresh and the curved dropouts are presumed to begin in 39 but not strong until 40. The curved fender brackets also popular in 39 and continued prewar mostly on the higher end models.
     
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