Cleveland Welding S/N Project?

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Hmmm70

On Training Wheels
Oct 30, 2018
2
47
Mid-Michigan
It was built between 50-54. Serial number will tell exact date.

The seat, chain guard and grips are wrong. Rims might be too.
Hi Ratina. Thank you for the response. Here is the serial number. G61665 then A and possibly C. Does that help at all?
Also, given the pictures I posted, and the non-correct pieces you identified (at least those, I'm sure), what would you all do with this? Strip it and redo it, try to get original parts, or just ride it as is? The tires are mismatched and have cracks, so they at least will go. The gray paint on the rims is chipping also.
 

BillMetric

Look Ma, No Hands!
May 14, 2018
40
51
Columbus, Ohio, USA
Thanks Krakatoa,
I sold my first classic bike while riding it around at the Hershey PA car swap in 1986, it was a complete brown house painted over red '36 Roadmaster flat tank, was just missing the braced drop stand and battery tube, I sold the bike for $200 ... but I had only paid $50 for it ! I may still have the original chain tread tires I saved off it somewhere but I haven't seen them for 30 years, I have an old photo of it someplace I should post when I find it, wish I had written down the serial number somewhere, I'd gladly refund the 1986 purchase price if the buyer would like to sell it back
 

skiptooth

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 1, 2017
668
73
Tehachapi CA
here is a few things; I believe is correct w/ cwc the seat post clamp is a big factor ; the rib seat post means 1948-53 also the crash bars on the springer and carrier are 50's verify w/ other members ! I'm very happy that Phil will take the time to straighten us out... thank you phil....Richard...
 
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TieDye

I live for the CABE
Aug 24, 2015
1,257
Henderson, MI, United States
here is a few things; I believe is correct w/ cwc the seat post clamp is a big factor ; the rib seat post means 1948-53 also the crash bars on the springer and carrier are 50's verify w/ other members ! I'm very happy that Phil will take the time to straighten us out... thank you phil....Richard...
Skiptooth, I have a ladies Roadmaster CW series, serial number D12558 Cw. By Phil's serial number chart, it would have been made December 1947 to March 1948. With the number being 125... I am assuming most likely January of 1948. And, so, I refer to it as a 1948 as I feel confident about that. My seat post is welded and does not have the rib. What do you make of that? Can anyone else help with this detail with their serial numbers? It may help us to nail this detail a bit more. Thanks!
Deb
 
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BillMetric

Look Ma, No Hands!
May 14, 2018
40
51
Columbus, Ohio, USA
heres my old '36 flat tank from 1986 in front of the '29 Ford I just inherited, sorry no serial number, it was an A# though, it had a stainless Delta light on it when I sold it at Hershey PA swap back then, anyone seen it lately? I'm trying to find another identical saddle, it looks like a single wire frame Troxel but not sure what model it would have been?
IMG_20181204_001414.jpg
 

BillMetric

Look Ma, No Hands!
May 14, 2018
40
51
Columbus, Ohio, USA
Found those tires I took off in 1986, I believe they are the original 1936 tires and tubes with threaded metal stems, I don't think the repros have the checkerboard sidewalls
United States Rubber Company
Giant Chain Tread No. 778
"the original chain tread"
Des. Pat. No. 43454
IMG_20181209_145812.jpg
 
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Felixnegron

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 9, 2017
342
52
Hello and great idea for this Project, about (CWC) BIKES S/N. CAUSE I HAVE(5) BIKES, FROM (CWC) THAT'S THE ONLY BIKES i GONNA LOVE FOREVER FIRST, CAUSE MY SON & DAUGHTER BORN HERE IN CLEVELAND OHIO & (2) JUST LOVE THE WAY THEY, MAKE THE PREWAR (R.MASTER) BICYCLES UUUUUFFFF LOOKS SO H.DUTYS AND FOR, THAT REASON THEY ARE IN MY LITTLE COLLECTION. (2 /girls) & (3/boys) I am Very happy......:):kissingheart::)
 
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Felixnegron

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 9, 2017
342
52
Thank you for this (S/N/P.) AnthonyR from me and my son. My friend GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS.....;)
 

BillMetric

Look Ma, No Hands!
May 14, 2018
40
51
Columbus, Ohio, USA
Krakatoa
it was the standard Roadmaster checkered flags badge for flat tank, I remember chipping all the house paint off it and touched up the flags pretty badly with model car paint, also remember the tiny screws being barely capable of holding the tank and the badge in place
 

skiptooth

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 1, 2017
668
73
Tehachapi CA
Here is a few things I learned back in the 1980's, ribbed seat clamp 1948-to-1953. straight bar on boys head set to crank set probably early 1940's. tanks , carriers , seats can be easily changed. I would love to see the out come of this project, I think its great!! Richard.....
 

skiptooth

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 1, 2017
668
73
Tehachapi CA
Skiptooth, I have a ladies Roadmaster CW series, serial number D12558 Cw. By Phil's serial number chart, it would have been made December 1947 to March 1948. With the number being 125... I am assuming most likely January of 1948. And, so, I refer to it as a 1948 as I feel confident about that. My seat post is welded and does not have the rib. What do you make of that? Can anyone else help with this detail with their serial numbers? It may help us to nail this detail a bit more. Thanks!
Deb
 

skiptooth

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 1, 2017
668
73
Tehachapi CA
Deb.I would go with phils numbers because back in the 80's we were guessing no tect. then! even now you can be 6 mo. off . does your bike have a drop stand? springer? and what type of carrier? skirt guards? I may have one posted on the lounge ...title; what else do you collect.. page 4 on the lounge, page 8 on what else do you collect ... check it out...Richard....
 
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TieDye

I live for the CABE
Aug 24, 2015
1,257
Henderson, MI, United States
Here is a few things I learned back in the 1980's, ribbed seat clamp 1948-to-1953. straight bar on boys head set to crank set probably early 1940's. tanks , carriers , seats can be easily changed. I would love to see the out come of this project, I think its great!! Richard.....
Early or late 1948 for ribbed seat tube clamp?
 

TieDye

I live for the CABE
Aug 24, 2015
1,257
Henderson, MI, United States
Deb.I would go with phils numbers because back in the 80's we were guessing no tect. then! even now you can be 6 mo. off . does your bike have a drop stand? springer? and what type of carrier? skirt guards? I may have one posted on the lounge ...title; what else do you collect.. page 4 on the lounge, page 8 on what else do you collect ... check it out...Richard....
D12558 Cw. Two-tone green.

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skiptooth

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 1, 2017
668
73
Tehachapi CA
awesome bike love the org. paint ! GLAD YOU HAVE IT DATED... really like these w/ the closed chain guard and all the curved braces..keep your eye out for org. paint rack ,light, tank. dress guards.( ride it and have fun).....
 
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