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dnc1
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
As I said disregard the fork; you're right re. the "TT" styling @juvela. The correct fork is very reminiscent of a Cinelli design (sadly no pictures at the moment).
Does anyone know the name of this 'round to square' profile Columbus tubing?
This tubing features on the top and down tubes.
I've read that some of these frames were used for some pretty serious racing (not that I have any provenance to speak of) and I'm looking at a very high-end build. Campagnolo all the way methinks, and a very bright colour scheme to match.
Some of these must have made their way across the pond. Would be interesting to see any other examples.
Does anyone know the name of this 'round to square' profile Columbus tubing?
This tubing features on the top and down tubes.
I've read that some of these frames were used for some pretty serious racing (not that I have any provenance to speak of) and I'm looking at a very high-end build. Campagnolo all the way methinks, and a very bright colour scheme to match.
Some of these must have made their way across the pond. Would be interesting to see any other examples.
juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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Hope this annum's Palma sojourn free of any impromptu inland waterways.
Given date would expect an oem stern spacing of one-two-six.
This means gear block would have been either a conventional six or a narrow seven.
(Slightly) puzzled by presence of braze-on for mech anteriore.
With chainstays this short one gets into crossover binding problems rather quickly.
Many frames of this pattern were conceived by their builders to be of a single plateau drive.
Conceivable front mech braze-on may be a post-manufacture addition, along with seat tube w/b.
If we take a narrow seven gear block as an example the rider would likely have had only four usable gears with the small c/w and four with the large. Yielding only eight usable combinations out of a nominal fourteen.
One maker who produced framesets of similar pattern was HARAL of France (Haute-Savoie, up against the CH border). Their design included a curved top tube. Have a few images of these saved on me hd but am away from "the ranch" this week. Shall essay their erection semana prossima.
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Hope this annum's Palma sojourn free of any impromptu inland waterways.
Given date would expect an oem stern spacing of one-two-six.
This means gear block would have been either a conventional six or a narrow seven.
(Slightly) puzzled by presence of braze-on for mech anteriore.
With chainstays this short one gets into crossover binding problems rather quickly.
Many frames of this pattern were conceived by their builders to be of a single plateau drive.
Conceivable front mech braze-on may be a post-manufacture addition, along with seat tube w/b.
If we take a narrow seven gear block as an example the rider would likely have had only four usable gears with the small c/w and four with the large. Yielding only eight usable combinations out of a nominal fourteen.
One maker who produced framesets of similar pattern was HARAL of France (Haute-Savoie, up against the CH border). Their design included a curved top tube. Have a few images of these saved on me hd but am away from "the ranch" this week. Shall essay their erection semana prossima.
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dnc1
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Sadly @juvela, once again the Iles Baleares have been inundated with some terrible 'tormentas' in the last week, bringing much needed rain after months of drought, but also causing much flooding once more.
The braze on for the front mech is original; I've seen the same now on several other, later machines.
I'm now of the opinion that this is a very early example of their TT bicicletes de Carretera.
It lacks the curved chain stays of their later '80s/'90s machines.
Also the treatment of the seatpin binder bolt suggests an earlier era, 80's/'90s models have a bolt between the top rear of the seat stays.
Curioser and curioser!
Will have to look for a frame number I guess. I know it has Contini stamped into the drive side chain stay.
The braze on for the front mech is original; I've seen the same now on several other, later machines.
I'm now of the opinion that this is a very early example of their TT bicicletes de Carretera.
It lacks the curved chain stays of their later '80s/'90s machines.
Also the treatment of the seatpin binder bolt suggests an earlier era, 80's/'90s models have a bolt between the top rear of the seat stays.
Curioser and curioser!
Will have to look for a frame number I guess. I know it has Contini stamped into the drive side chain stay.
juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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Thanks for the meteorological reportage.
Am thinking it would be early eno' for metric/BNA threading.
Is this what you find?
Lug pattern BOCAMA Competition with cutout Nr. R1.
Shell appears BOCAMA as well.
If tubeset A.L. Colombo it may reside here...
http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/columbus/columbuschart.htm
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Thanks for the meteorological reportage.
Am thinking it would be early eno' for metric/BNA threading.
Is this what you find?
Lug pattern BOCAMA Competition with cutout Nr. R1.
Shell appears BOCAMA as well.
If tubeset A.L. Colombo it may reside here...
http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/columbus/columbuschart.htm
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juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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Hola Señor W. -
dating - usually think of the seat tube w/b as becoming widespread ~MCMLXXXIV.
sounds like you enjoy a knowledge of this marque. alas, for me it is nada.
did find these two links with which you may be already familiar -
https://chebici.es/historia-de-la-bicicleta-contini/
https://picclick.com/Contini-Cinelli-LoPro-time-trial-funny-bicycle-223493607710.html
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thought i had saved some HARAL images of their TT frames to me HD but alas no.
here is a forum discussion post on a HARAL Chambery -
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velo encyclopedia entry on the marque -
http://encycloduvelo.fr/haral/
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compatriot of spoon and knife hath yet to make an appearance. perhaps ye shall be able to persuade him to overcome his shyness for a daguerreotype.
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Hola Señor W. -
dating - usually think of the seat tube w/b as becoming widespread ~MCMLXXXIV.
sounds like you enjoy a knowledge of this marque. alas, for me it is nada.
did find these two links with which you may be already familiar -
https://chebici.es/historia-de-la-bicicleta-contini/
https://picclick.com/Contini-Cinelli-LoPro-time-trial-funny-bicycle-223493607710.html
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thought i had saved some HARAL images of their TT frames to me HD but alas no.
here is a forum discussion post on a HARAL Chambery -
178
velo encyclopedia entry on the marque -
http://encycloduvelo.fr/haral/
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compatriot of spoon and knife hath yet to make an appearance. perhaps ye shall be able to persuade him to overcome his shyness for a daguerreotype.
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juvela
Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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Credit me poor "memory", which be just a memory, Don D.
Fortunately am a bachelor, otherwise would forget me wife's name.
The folks from "the home" are coming for me next week...
While the forum has rules against bad or abusive language there be none against poster errors. Otherwise would have been banned long since. :eek:
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Credit me poor "memory", which be just a memory, Don D.
Fortunately am a bachelor, otherwise would forget me wife's name.
The folks from "the home" are coming for me next week...
While the forum has rules against bad or abusive language there be none against poster errors. Otherwise would have been banned long since. :eek:
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