Copake auction and swap meet 2018


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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
15,333
15,256
Evans, GA
#3
I'm really hoping they get a decent selection of balloon tire bikes this year. V/r Shawn
 

Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
15,333
15,256
Evans, GA
#5
Yep I realize that is only a preview but the last few years have been seriously lacking any really good ballooners. V/r Shawn
 

vuniw

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jun 30, 2011
156
77
Orange, CT, United States
#7
There is a ride at Copake every year after the swap right? I want to bring a high wheel up for the ride if they have one but I cannot remember for sure.
 
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jrapoza

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 13, 2011
118
237
Baltimore, United States
#9
Yep I realize that is only a preview but the last few years have been seriously lacking any really good ballooners. V/r Shawn
I didn't see much in Balloon tire myself. I wanted to consign items but with the weather and logistics I wasn't able to get there in time. Seth told me the auction catalog was completed and it is full when I called the other day and they are not accepting anything else. I should have planned earlier.
 
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UncleRemus

Look Ma, No Hands!
Feb 16, 2015
54
204
NW Ohio / Florida
#10
Copake is showing up on all the Internet Auctions across the Country with Online Bidding for many and prolly the better bikes . So anyone that's going there will be competing with ghost bidders etc.. That more or less bothers me because of the distance and that's one reason I don't go ...........
 

Mr.RED

Look Ma, No Hands!
Dec 17, 2017
75
92
35
Massachusetts
#11
I've sat thru the Copake auctions a few times and because of the online bidding from users all over the world the auction goes by rather slow. I mainly go to Copake just for the swap which is always a good turnout. This years catalog has a lot of bikes more then previous years it seems sad only 2 or 3 road bikes are in the auction.
 

jrapoza

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 13, 2011
118
237
Baltimore, United States
#12
Copake is showing up on all the Internet Auctions across the Country with Online Bidding for many and prolly the better bikes . So anyone that's going there will be competing with ghost bidders etc.. That more or less bothers me because of the distance and that's one reason I don't go ...........
I like internet bidding so I don't have go to any auctions but....

The downfall is a 23% buyers premium. Every 100.00 will cost you $23.00. It is getting ridiculous..

I remember Bonhams started that years ago so I stop buying there. Who wants to bid 50K on a car then pay another 12K in buyers premium then shipping the item.

I know the web sites all charge for using their auction platforms.

The charge is 5 percent and then there is the credit card of 3 percent.

The auction houses just keep putting those fee's on the buyer. Which in effect kills the item for the seller. I am comfortable with 15% as I think most people are. In the end the higher the auction house charges the lower bidders are willing to pay. At least that is the way I see it.

The best yet is Mecum Auctions. I sold cars and motorcycles at Mecum for 8%. Beat that. World Wide, World Class.

I think more and more people will just use ebay in the future, it just works fine at 13%.
 

BicycleBill

'Lil Knee Scuffer
Aug 27, 2010
13
18
#13
I like internet bidding so I don't have go to any auctions but....

The downfall is a 23% buyers premium. Every 100.00 will cost you $23.00. It is getting ridiculous..

I remember Bonhams started that years ago so I stop buying there. Who wants to bid 50K on a car then pay another 12K in buyers premium then shipping the item.

I know the web sites all charge for using their auction platforms.

The charge is 5 percent and then there is the credit card of 3 percent.

The auction houses just keep putting those fee's on the buyer. Which in effect kills the item for the seller. I am comfortable with 15% as I think most people are. In the end the higher the auction house charges the lower bidders are willing to pay. At least that is the way I see it.

The best yet is Mecum Auctions. I sold cars and motorcycles at Mecum for 8%. Beat that. World Wide, World Class.

I think more and more people will just use ebay in the future, it just works fine at 13%.
I spoke to Mike Fallon and suggest using a left bid or phone bid and the buyers premium will be 18%.
 

jrapoza

Finally riding a big boys bike
Nov 13, 2011
118
237
Baltimore, United States
#14
I spoke to Mike Fallon and suggest using a left bid or phone bid and the buyers premium will be 18%.
I agree phone bidding is great. The problem I have had in the past (not with no one in particular) is you can't phone bid an entire auction so it is still 18% at the end of the day, 18% at 50K is still 9K. It still has an effect on the end sellers profit and the amount I want to bid. A 10K item will cost 11,800.00. When I last bought cars at Mecum for 50K at 8% I paid 4K. Just saying. All auction house are getting higher and higher. I can't understand why. The volume that can be accomplished today that wasn't probable 10 years ago should make the cost go down not up. Advertising is cheaper some company's don't even have print. Those that do want 35.00 for a catalog.
 

Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
15,333
15,256
Evans, GA
#15
Just curious what people picked up to day at the auction. The Monark Five Bar I was interested in went for about $5100 by the time you figure fees and tax. I already have an original paint Five Bar so not terribly disappointing. I did pick up a mate to my boys '38 Twin Flex though! V/r Shawn

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Freqman1

Riding a '37 Dayton Super Streamline
Jul 14, 2009
15,333
15,256
Evans, GA
#20
After reviewing the auction results it seems to me there were a lot of bargains to be had. That Rollfast V200 for $600 was a steal in my book. Looks like lower tier ballooners and restored Monarks went begging. I'm no TOC expert but it seemed to me a lot of the early safetys went cheap or at least reasonable. The decked out Meads did well but other teens bikes seemed to go cheap. I'm sure I'll see a lot of these again next week at MLC. V/r Shawn
 

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