Dating Morrow Hubs

[GiovanniLiCalsi]

Here is the earliest.
It’s a clutch hub and rear wheel spoon brake.
Eclipse Machine Works became Morrow, on their way to making one of the best motorcycles, of the turn of the century era.
Wish I still had the 1896 Eclipse Roadster.

 

[fat tire trader]

Hi Adrian,
Can you take some pictures of your hub? Where is the oil cover piece? Can you compare the clutch parts to a later hub? Does the brake arm have an oval badge on it?
Best regards,
Chris

Hi All,

A resurrection thread, I know, but mainly because I've not found the answer to the original question.

Morrows, as we know, are easy to date by the quarter using the letter and number code post 1931.

Are there any ways to date pre 1931 Morrows?

I've just dismantled to service a Morrow (the grease was absolutely solid, but had preserved the internals well) that is 1920 at latest. It has the August 24th 1909 last patent date stamped on the cylinder, and the cogwheel without a slot to aid spoke removal.

Several of the parts are stamped 8, For example the two halves of the clutch..Is this a date stamp, and, if so, 1908 or 1918? For the bike it came from 1918 would be more logical.

Any thoughts?

Thanks.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[Mercian]

Hi Chris,

Yes, I can take pictures, but it'll be later in the week.I'll @ you when they're up.

The original arm s broken off, it was crudely converted into a 'Fixie' by doing this, a very long time ago.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[the tinker]

I always liked Vic Morrow. Sgt. Saunders, of the TV show Combat. Vic was great.

 

[mr.cycleplane]

I always liked Vic Morrow. Sgt. Saunders, of the TV show Combat. Vic was great.

Tuesday nights at 730pm-homework had to be done before we could watch this. Don't remember any bicycles though....

 

[Mercian]

Hi Chris,

@fat tire trader

I hope these are the photos you want. At the moment I don't have a later hub in parts.

1909 patent date, the hub size is in small stamps just above the writing (not really visible here). Later hubs seem to have it below.

General View (Bendix and cog missing, photos below)

I assume this is the oil cover? On the opposite side to the stamping.

Parts stamped 8

No slot gear wheel. Teeth are badly sharked, since it was made into a fixed gear long ago.

Best Regards,

Adrian

 

[Ricker]

Two questions:
Is the "oiler" hub newer or older?
& which one of these arms is older (one is narrower & slightly longer)?
Thanks-