Details about this CWC?

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  1. #1 Posted Jul 23, 2017

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    Howdy
    Picked up this bike a couple weeks ago and have seen postings here that the frames like this were not necessarily made by Cleveland Welding. How does one differentiate which company made this frame and how to tell who made others when looking at other bikes?
    What year and who made this Gambles Hiawatha badged bike?
    Next thing....someone did some "touch up" on the back fender and I can't find any thing that will take the spray can crap off that doesn't remove the original off with it. Can you tell what the original pattern was under there? The paint on this is fragile and almost any thing but a rag damages it. Have any tricks to clean and preserve it?
    Last and least, what's the story on the Delta light with the wing on it?
    thanks in advance for help
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    got the pic's up
     
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    it is Cleveland Welding built, and they did make Hiawatha's in the 50's, but I can't say I ever seen that badge on a CWC bike

    also that chainringis usedon Western Flyer badged CWC bikes, and that "comet " tank is usually found on Hawthorne badged bikes
     
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    Ok thanks. It all looks like it's been this way a very long time. Paint all matches color and patina. Maybe someone changed the badge?


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    No CWC under the bottom bracket. Had me puzzled. We have a Hawthorne with a frame very close to this one.


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    not sure when exactly in sequence the Cw was added to serials , I would say your bike is a 1947 , by thenit was the third time they used "A" and to avoid confusion the Cw suffix was added. but yourdropouts are post war , and it looks as if the seat post collar is welded on
     
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    Great information! Thanks! So....what's an appropriate badge for this bike?


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    I agree with all the other posts !! you might want to replace the badge, w/ a roadmaster badge and put the correct rivets in !! 1946/47 is on the money !!..check out the other comets and compare them to yours? like your cwc...;) Richard....
     
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    Thank you Richard; appreciate all the information. There is so much to learn.


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    Removed the Hiawatha badge and the paint is new under. Whatever badge it came with had the same shape as the Hiawatha one. ??????


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    The fenderlite is an accessory by Delta called a "Cadilite", plastic body. I have one but my insides are toast from a leaky battery.

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    Ok ; this one is clean inside and still works. What era were they made?


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    Based on the fin, I'd say late 50's early 60's.

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    Ok thanks


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    Cleveland Welding did make bikes for Gambles, so I wouldn't change that badge out until you know for sure it's been replaced. A lot of variations on these bikes were never documented. Things got changed after the bikes were sold, but unless someone was trying to "restore" this 2 or 30 years ago, I don't see why they'd swap the head badge. Sometimes the best evidence is the bike itself.
     
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    Agreed. Took the badge off and the paint pattern matches the badge. The badge shape is upside down from the Roadmaster and others that were used. Going to leave it as is. Thanks for the help!


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