Early Elgin lightweight?

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    Can anyone help i.d. this curious Elgin "lightweight"? Serial #179994, Allstate 26 x 1.375 on Musselman M breke and N Departure front hub. I've never seen this frame and carrier, and would like to know year, Model, and ballpark value. Thanks

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    looks like an Elgin Black Hawk missing the tank.
     
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    Yep, looks like a black hawk or Falcon bike
     
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    Wore out three sets of tires already!

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    Is it for sale???

    It's in the for sale / trade section how much is it
     
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    Bastardized columbia built twin bar frame,great seat. 750-900?

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    Lol... I'm pretty sure you aren't the only one thinking that
     
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    Elgin Falcon. 1934 - 1936. Missing parts. Wrong rims and tires.
     
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    Tires are wrong size,early steel clad wood wheels,1933/34.

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    Finally riding a big boys bike

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    I'm I in the wrong thread thought this was sell or trade
     
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    Thanks for all the info. I will re-post it when it is for sale
     
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    Gotta love fisherman. Too lazy to do the work to figure out what they have.

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  13. #13 Posted Nov 22, 2017

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    So, I went through this bike to find the forks and fenders to be narrow and don't accept 26" balloons. These 28" x 1.5" clad wheels and tires fit properly.
    The decal on the front down tube says "twinnbar" like the Columbia versions of the Blackhawk. Was there a 28" Falcon???. It would look great with the tank and front goodies. Haven't been able to find it yet in the literature.

    As for the tire date code on a set of Allstate 26" 1.375" tires. Can anyone decipher the date?? Apparently the code repeats every 10 or 12 years, and with my term grade edumication, I can't figure it out.
    I intend to sell these tires and wheels.

    Thank you

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    I have literature showing Falcon/blackhawk were optioned with 3 sizes of wheels 26" 27" and 28".
    You might have something unique there
     
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    Really neat Chris! Great job getting the house paint off and uncovering the Twinbar decal. I would advise against selling the wheels and tires until you can determine if they are in fact original equipment. It would also be interesting if you could date code the rear hub but I am not very familiar with Musselman dating. Maybe this warrants another look?

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    Regarding the tire code, the dots reset with every decade, other markings on the tires would help to determine which decade 30s 40s etc. Off hand these dont look mid decade, I can help you more on Monday.
     
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    Thank you. They have the # 180434. I was using a 12 year cycle due to the 12 quarters in the 3 circles but ??
    FYI, Here's a pic of the bike cleaned up with the 26" wheels that came on it. Holding air and riding.
     
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