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vincev

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 2, 2008
13,741
crown point<indiana
Does anybody have any good info about ebikes ? ANy pros or cons.Some of us old guys may be interested in a little help with the old joints. Any good brands,etc. Are kits the way to go ? Does anybody even own one ?lol
 
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Jamesmc

On Training Wheels
Dec 21, 2019
5
San Clemente, Ca
I really like my Cheetah by civi bikes. Its quicker and faster than I thought it would be and will go around 50 miles with the bigger battery. I had a bike shop put a motor on this harley davidson bicycle. I liked it so much they are building another harley for me that is NIB from 1998. I love these 2 e bikes. My 74 year old brother came down and rode with me for the first time. Never rode as kids because of our age difference, and probably wouldn't without the help of a motor nowadays.
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juvela

I live for the CABE
Aug 2, 2014
1,679
Playa del Rey, United States
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rentals are all over the place in the San Francisco area. just sitting out on street corners waiting for customers.

someone dumped a stolen one next to my home. they had covered all the names up with duct tape. was able to find the name and telephone number for the owner on the backside of a partial fairing it wore. called them up and they came out and collected the widget.

its a bit disconcerting when people dump stolen property on one's premises...

they are not universally hailed. some communities have put up something called "geo fencing" to render them in operable. we had a discussion thread on this here at the forum a few months back.

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cyclingday

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
Feb 24, 2008
7,918
Costa Mesa, California. United States
My wife bought an Electra Townie/Bosch Active Assist.
She loves it, as do I, because now when we go for a ride together, I can draft behind her, and she paces me into the wind.
I was skeptical of it at first, but it is a high quality machine, and makes riding more fun for her.
So from what I’ve seen, I can highly recommend that particular electric assist bike.
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Superman1984

Finally riding a big boys bike
Oct 28, 2019
415
36
Pageland South Carolina
I haven't rode 1 but I hear the 48v kits can usually hit up to like 35 mph and somewhere around 50 miles if not up hilly areas or steep inclines. I see they are capable of spinning tires so I would assume they have some torque and being a 160 lbs or so I imagine an aluminum bike base would haul some butt pretty quickly. I have seen both wheels powered as well & still retain pedal power
 
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mike j

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jun 3, 2013
3,238
Tuxedo Park, United States
Thanks @ tripple3, I have to say that I'm hooked on them. First of all these old frames are super sturdy & can handle any bike motors. I've been using Clean Republic Hilltopper out of Seattle for my 250, 350 watt hub motors. Luna cycles, California for the more powerful mid drives 750 watt +. They have taken me where I never could have gone w/out them. Not a huge amount of modification involved, you can pretty much just slap on a 250 @ go. 350's need torque arms, you can modify truss rods to do the job. Karl Gesslein has an excellent ElectricBike-Blog.com, you can get a lot of great intel. from that. A simple formula for figuring some of this is volts x amps.= watts. Here are some of mine, the photo above is my 1938 Firestone Colson w/ 750 watt mid drive unit which is the most powerful that you can legally ride on the road w/out a license. Below 1941 Goodyear 250 watt, batteries & controller in the tank. 1918 H.D. ? 350 watt, controller in the tank, three 12 volt batteries in the box.

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100bikes

Finally riding a big boys bike
Mar 8, 2013
309
Minneapolis, United States
I was the national sales rep for IZIP and eZip ebikes years ago.

They offer some huge benefits.
If you are investing in one for regular use, I suggest a center drive, purpose built bike.
Better weight distribution, better torque to weight ratio.

If buy a kit, I really suggest a rear drive unit (vs a front wheel).
Think of going into a turn on wet or slippery surface under power.......

Rent or demo a couple different models.

Many metro area( may some day soon) have ebike expo's to see a lot of different options in one place
(Minneapolis has/had one for a number of years)

Inexpensive Chinese products are just that.
Off brand stuff can be hard to service and find repair parts for.

The money is still in the batteries, with 60% or more of the cost there.

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tanksalot

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Nov 22, 2011
952
Hingham, United States
Where do you get the batteries ?
Also is the amps of each battery different for each wattage motor? In order to get more ride time . I’m assuming more voltage means more speed ? Or is the battery one size fits all. How do the battery company’s ship ? I’m assuming they are Lipo battery’s ? I see kits online but I really don’t see the battery’s offered ? I haven’t really shopped around much yet though. And I’m assuming they have restrictions on shippping the battery’s . Who makes the best kit with everything included? Thanks for any info.
 
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Sven

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Dec 24, 2017
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Mechanicsville, MD, United States
Currently out of stock . Check your LBS.
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vincev

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 2, 2008
13,741
crown point<indiana
Currently out of stock . Check your LBS.
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A little out of my price range.lol
 
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mike j

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jun 3, 2013
3,238
Tuxedo Park, United States
I think that the front hub motors are fine in the 250 to 350 watt range, not enough power to be much of an issue in turns, loose surface, plus you can use your coaster brake. I like the mid drives as opposed to rear hubs because of the gear range, rear hubs are pretty much limited to single speed. Batteries ARE were the money is. Luna & Hilltopper both offer quality batteries. I think that I've learned more from Karl Gesslein's Ebike blog than anywhere else. He does favor Luna. Shipping the batteries is getting easier. I recently shipped one to Colorado via UPS, it was pretty easy, you just have to declare, pay a little extra & put a warning label on it. As far as swapping batteries from one bike to another, a 250 watt motor uses a 24 volt battery, 350watt, 36 volts, 750 watt, 48 to 60 volt battery. 60 volts kicks the motor up around 1200watts & not sure how it will fare in the long haul. I use 12 volt batteries in series on a couple of bikes.
 

49autocycledeluxe

I live for the CABE
May 29, 2017
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60
fremont california
out on my road bike stopped at a light. when the light turned green an older lady (yet younger than me) on a fat tire bike took off before me and was going about 14 MPH. I was thinking this lady is pretty fast considering her age and the bike she was on. then I saw the rear hub and knew she was cheating. then I had to think.. do I pass her? what if she picks up the pace? what about the humiliation of being passed by an old lady on a bike with fat tires and a basket up front with plastic flowers on it? I made the decision to go for it and took it up to 18 MPH. lucky for me she stayed at the same pace and did not pass me later. she was probably thinking "that guy is pretty fast for an old guy"
 

mike j

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jun 3, 2013
3,238
Tuxedo Park, United States
Right now everything under 750 watts is under the radar, and lets face it, if you drive by cop on an ebike or a noisy 2 cycle, who's he gonna look at. I've been watching them for awhile, a lot are overpriced and underpowered. Also with all the components integrated into the frame, as the technology changes, and it will, you could get stuck with something obsolete and costly to repair or upgrade. That kind of steered me to the kits, plus I like making some of these oldies fun. They did it in the repack race. That all being said, I did demo this Bad Boy down in Baja this winter. The torque is insane, pure power out of the hole, I was ready to buy one before I came back to reality. Pre order price 3700.00.

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