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chitown

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jun 21, 2010
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I wonder who bought out his sundries business... I'm thinking either Mead or Chicago Cycle Supply would be the most likely. I'll have to do more digging to find that one out.
Just found this as to who was in on the liquidation of the Sundries portion of the business.

1911 clip:

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chitown

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And as far as manufacturing talent, Robie had a good core crew who could make anything you needed. This is another clip from the 1905 article which states they often will make a part if it is discontinued and not available in a floor with all the lathes and stamping equipment to do so. (looks like they are making chain rings... or copying some)

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chitown

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1905 was booming for Excelsior

Robie sent Pope packing east with a suitcase full of cash.



Chicago, ILL. -

An enormous deal in the sundry line was consummated this month when
the Excelsior Supply Company 233 237 Randolph Street acquired the
entire bicycle and automobile sundry stock of the Western business of
the Pope Manufacturing Co. The above firm is now the Western distributor
for everything of the best in the auto supply line all the well known makers
of sundries and accessories being represented in its immense stock.


Clip from g00gle b00ks:

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hoofhearted

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CHRIS (chitown) ... your documentation and presentation is wonderful to see !!!
Thank you for your efforts and endurance !!!

.... patric
 

chitown

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Thank you for your efforts and endurance !!!
I'm enjoying this research kick I've been on and am glad to share it here on the cabe. The whole multiple Excelsior brands always bugged the bajeezus out of me and I wanted to know how separate or related these firms were. There is yet another Excelsior company from Chicago that is separate from what would become the Michigan City company (Excelsior Cycle Co) and the Schwinn company (Excelsior Motor & Manufacturing Co). The name was "Excelsior General Supply Co." and they existed after the Schwinn buyout until the late teens. But I'll have to post that stuff later. My endurance from shoveling snow all day has me in the mood to replenish some liquid carbohydrates and call it a night... but I did post this one picture from the Excelsior General Supply Co's booth at the 1914 Cycle Trade Show on another thread.:)

 
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chitown

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hoofhearted

Saint Lactose The Tolerant
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chitown (Chris) ... Excellent documentation of those Excelsior badges !!!

Am still confuzed .. but in a more knowledgeable way. Good form .....

.......... patric
 

chitown

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1918

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Here is an interesting ad from 1918 showing the narrow snowflake ring mostly associated with Snyder or Westfield (?) Elgins of the late twenties to early thirties.
 
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kdietz

On Training Wheels
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information on this Excelsior

any info would be helpful. only pic i have till the bike arrives next week.
dont know much about it except it has one wooden wheel the other is steel??
thanks

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cyclingday

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chitown;303441 [B said:
Unknown year... Early Teens? modified badge? Arnold Schwinn Excelsior[/B]

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Wonderful early Schwinn badged beast found here:

http://thecabe.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?51556-Need-help-with-a-teens-20s-Chicago-exclesior
I've got an Arnold Schwinn & Co. (E) badge just like the one shown here.
I've always been curious about it, because what Schwinn bought, was the Excelsior Motor Manufacturing and Supply Company of Chicago. Which I thought was completely unrelated to the Michigan City Indiana Excelsior.
The stylized (E) badge is clearly a Michigan City Excelsior badge, so what gives with the AS&Co. version?
 

chitown

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I've got an Arnold Schwinn & Co. (E) badge just like the one shown here.
I've always been curious about it, because what Schwinn bought, was the Excelsior Motor Manufacturing and Supply Company of Chicago. Which I thought was completely unrelated to the Michigan City Indiana Excelsior.
The stylized (E) badge is clearly a Michigan City Excelsior badge, so what gives with the AS&Co. version?
The Schwinn badge is closer to the early pre-1912. If you look at under the "Mfg by" there are some little dashes and dots that don't show up on the 2 Excelsior Cycle Co (Mich city & Chicago) versions.

So I think Ignaz got the leftover stock and maybe re-stamped??? with Schwinn etched into the die stamp??? The Schwinn script is suspiciously raised and not well defined so it looks altered???
 

chitown

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
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any info would be helpful. only pic i have till the bike arrives next week.
dont know much about it except it has one wooden wheel the other is steel??
thanks
Looks like a mid to late twenties Michigan City built... possibly earlier. Based on the fenders and saddle mostly. Hard to tell though. If you can post serial numbers and detail pics that would be awesome. Great bike!!!
 

Jarod24

I live for the CABE
May 5, 2014
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#34
Have a couple frame

So I originally posted these to a Davis thread cause I thought that's what both these frame were. But I was informed they look like they are Excelsior built frames. Definitely doesn't help that the complete one has all after market stuff ha. You have a lot of helpful info here! Just curious is there any way to date them off of the codes? The red one say LB; the B is backwards and then under that it says 008?3 I cant make out the 4th number in and the 3 looks like it was almost triple stamped. Any info is appreciated thanks.

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Bare Frame:

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Joe Hargis

Finally riding a big boys bike
Feb 3, 2014
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Excelsior / original

I just figured out what the frame I have is ... just before I ran across this post and read through it today ... Fantastic info ! In the pic it has an incorrect CWC Trail Blazer badge on it ... I happened to have a 1916 Excelsior style badge and it lines up with the mounting holes perfect . The steer tube is brass also .... I will re-read to try an estimate the date on it , thanks for the post , cool stuff . I have the fenders and most other parts too ....
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