First antique bikes need help with info


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Ryan2121

On Training Wheels
Apr 15, 2019
3
4
32
Ohio
#1
Hello this is my first post and I just recently bought my first vintage bicycles. I’ve been looking around for information on the specific models of these bikes and am just getting a little confused, I’d appreciate any info I can get
The first bikes head badge reads Elgin and made by Sears Roebuck. Also on it it has some sort of band maybe made of leather around each wheel hub, what were these used for?
The second bikes headbadge reads j.c. Higgins also made by Sears Roebuck

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frankandpam

Finally riding a big boys bike
Jan 21, 2016
323
533
Tacoma Wa
#3
Here's what I know (which usually ain't much!) The first bike is a pre war (WW2) Elgin, which was Sears bicycles and sporting goods brand name. Not sure of exact year, but someone will know. Looks like decent original paint bike.The leather straps are called "hub shiners". Keep dirt from caking on when riding and the hubs shinny ! After WW2 Sears branded sporting goods including bicycles got a name change to JC Higgins brand. Your bike is probably late forties. Bad news is that it was a girls bike and a bar is welded on to make it a boys style.Good news is that it has some decent original parts on it. Have fun with them, that's what it is all about.
 

Ryan2121

On Training Wheels
Apr 15, 2019
3
4
32
Ohio
#5
Thanks for the info. On the Elgin what is it missing on the front and rear fenders I can tell something was there once. And do they call it any certain model so I can get some original pictures of it
 

piercer_99

Finally riding a big boys bike
Dec 27, 2015
496
1,350
Sanger, TX
#6
headlight, drop stand and reflector, check out a Sears 1939 catalog. The Elgin came with a drop stand originally, the kickstand was an after market option at Sears.

I only have pages from the 40 and 41 catalogs, sorry.
 

Archie Sturmer

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 13, 2018
538
436
Los Angeles, CA, USA
#7
The Murray-Elgin has a curved down tube, not straight, between the head tube and the bottom crank bracket.
I do not recognize the chain ring as a typical Murray or Sears part.
The seat post cluster joint design reminds me of the figure 3 in the 1943-48 patent 2,435,448; but more like the 1945-48 patent 2,443,008, by Herman L. Kraeft for Murray, also the rear drop-out. The MOD-502 does not mean 1939; the MU8-J may be MOS-J or ~1945.
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The girl's Murray-Higgins bike MOS-L may likely be a 1947; that is how I see the chart and stampings, and details.
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/help-need-i-d-on-this-one-military.128874/ (not military?).
 
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Ryan2121

On Training Wheels
Apr 15, 2019
3
4
32
Ohio
#10

Archie Sturmer

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jun 13, 2018
538
436
Los Angeles, CA, USA
#11
"Experimental" might be a loose figure of speech; today people might call it "continuous improvement process".
It was a production design; it was patented; it was improved upon.
Sounds kind of catchy or promotional - pay extra for something because it is a one-of-kind 'prototype' - (but then there are others).
Now, the modified girl's bike - that one is one of a kind! Uniqueness does not always equate to value tho.
 
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bikemonkey

I live for the CABE
Jun 25, 2016
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North Carolina , Albemarle, NC, United States
#12
Congrats on your finds and Welcome to the CABE!

If all new members created posts like yours, a lot more help would be forthcoming. Good job on the pics and doing some digging yourself.
 
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