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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
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Floral Park, NY, United States
#1
Here's a bike (minus the wheels) I picked up a year or so ago. Made in France, it's the first one I've ever seen...and now own.
Frame and fork are Reynolds 53, and the bike is complete with Campagnolo derailleurs and shifters...Mafac brakes and brake levers...Stronglight crankset...FOLLIS alloy labeled handlebars and neck...and I forgot who made the headset and pedals.

Anyway, any research I've found has led me to a model number of 472. If this is correct or not, please let me know. Frameset is to short for me, so at some point it might wind up in the For Sale section. Not sure as of now, but who knows. I just don't know if I'd ever find another one!
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bulldog1935

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Jan 21, 2013
3,759
5,477
Bulverde, TX
#2
nice bike and photo set - a French International
http://www.classicrendezvous.com/France/bicycles/Follis.htm
1974
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after a second look, I love the compact drops on the Follis proprietary bars - I've never understood why so many bike-boom road bikes used deep-drop, long-reach pista bars.
Here's my Cinelli 64 Dream Bars
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juvela

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 2, 2014
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Playa del Rey, United States
#8
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Hello HARPO,

Thanks for sharing this excellent find!

Good job with the pictures and with the redd-up. :)

The bicycle's headset is Stronglight Competition model V4.

The pedal set is Lyotard model 45CA. Just a bit later in the 1970's there was a change in the cage and the round hole which can be seen in the front and back was eliminated.

Frame -

Lugset is NERVEX Professional Series Legere Nr. 49/162.

Crown is NERVEX Professional Series Legere feature cut Nr. 5.

Ends set is MILREMO (Andre Bertin), attributed to MAVIC.

Bottom bracket shell Raccords Gargatte Freres.

Manufacturer -

Detailed company history here with many photos, diagrams, recing information (French text):
https://anciensveloslyonnais.weebly.com/follis---joseph-follis---marcel-follis.html

Shorter history with English text here:
http://classiclightweights.net/france/follis/

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Thank you again for sharing this cycle!
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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,553
1,665
Floral Park, NY, United States
#9
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Hello HARPO,

Thanks for sharing this excellent find!

Good job with the pictures and with the redd-up. :)

The bicycle's headset is Stronglight Competition model V4.

The pedal set is Lyotard model 45CA. Just a bit later in the 1970's there was a change in the cage and the round hole which can be seen in the front and back was eliminated.

Frame -

Lugset is NERVEX Professional Series Legere Nr. 49/162.

Crown is NERVEX Professional Series Legere feature cut Nr. 5.

Ends set is MILREMO (Andre Bertin), attributed to MAVIC.

Bottom bracket shell Raccords Gargatte Freres.

Manufacturer -

Detailed company history here with many photos, diagrams, recing information (French text):
https://anciensveloslyonnais.weebly.com/follis---joseph-follis---marcel-follis.html

Shorter history with English text here:
http://classiclightweights.net/france/follis/

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Thank you again for sharing this cycle!
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Wow! THANK YOU for all the info!!! Incredible!!!
 

juvela

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 2, 2014
822
1,229
Playa del Rey, United States
#10
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Hubs appear to be Pelissier (Etablissements Perrin).

Wonder if wheels original to cycle. It may have come with tubulars and a previous owner changed to these wired-ons.

Noticed that fork ends display eyelets while dropouts do not. Do they have any marking, perhaps Huret or Simplex?

(The small threaded hole on the dropouts is not an attachment point for rack or mudguards but rather a chainholder.)

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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,553
1,665
Floral Park, NY, United States
#11
juvela...no markings on the dropouts. And thanks again for the plethora of info on the bike. And I believe that the wheels are not original. Those should have had rims that had sew-ups on them.
You've pretty much have me wanting to keep it just because it is what it is, to small a frame or not for me!

fred
 

juvela

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 2, 2014
822
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Playa del Rey, United States
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The machine's Stronglight model 99 chainset had just launched when cycle was constructed. We did not get them in North America until 1974. It was revised in 1977. Parts interchange fully between the "G1" and "G2" editions of this chainset.

Possible reason for absence of markings on fork ends could be that they were put in shallowly and polished out when fork was prepared for chrome plating.

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juvela

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 2, 2014
822
1,229
Playa del Rey, United States
#15
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Are these catalogue pages for the 1973 model year?

Interesting to note that the model 472 shown is wearing Universal Super 68 sidepull brakes rather than the MAFAC Competition centrepulls of your machine. It also displays a front centrepull hanger despite having sidepull brakes.

The text says it comes with a Campag Record saddle pillar yet your example has a plain steel pillar.

It is specified with Campag large flange Nuovo Tipo hubs and MAVIC Monthlery tubular rims.

The person typing/composing the text must have been of limited cycle knowledge as the model's headset is described as "STRONGLIGHT 99"

Thanks for the information. :grinning:

Regarding component variations - keep in mind that the 1973 date puts it right at the peak of "the boom" when bicycle manufacturers were finding it difficult to get enough fittings to complete their products. Component substitutions were common. Catalogues and brochures typically have a fine print disclaimer stating something to the effect of "Specifications subject to change without notice."

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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,553
1,665
Floral Park, NY, United States
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I'm not sure what year the pages are from. I pulled them from the website you sent me. Lol...the entire site was in French, but the pages from all the models were in English.

The attached photo shows where the owner had drilled into the brake levers in a sad attempt to reduce weight! (BTW, I bought the bike from someone at a garage sale who had found it many years ago abandoned in an apartment building where he used to live).
 
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juvela

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 2, 2014
822
1,229
Playa del Rey, United States
#17
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thanks for the response fred :)

perchance someone thought the braking action not spongy enough :rolleyes:

interesting to see that they have a sclaverand valve adaptor fitted to the clamp bolt of the front mech...perhaps they wanted to be able to use the air at petrol stations...

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HARPO

I live for the CABE
Dec 28, 2010
1,553
1,665
Floral Park, NY, United States
#19
can only imagine one walking away from a bike of that quality would be if they had stolen it
I bought the bike from the daughter of the guy that had it for a long time. He had passed away and she was cleaning out his garage. Another reason when biking I stop at every garage sale.
 

juvela

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Aug 2, 2014
822
1,229
Playa del Rey, United States
#20
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thanks for this information! :smiley:

once lived in an apartment building which had a locked storage room for tenants where they could store their cycles.

if a tenant who had a machine in the storage room had died the person who came to clear out their belongings might not of known it was there. in such case it could have sat indefinitely.

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