frame id help..

[redline1968]

i have had this frame laying around and started looking at it. i thought it was a hawthorne but the rear adj screws don't look like the hawthornes or any bike that i have. the fork and the crank im not sure about. any ideas?

 

[bud poe]

Knowing your luck it's probably a Harley! Hope someone chimes in to ID it...chain adjusters look like Iver johnsons, maybe they (iver) made bikes under other labels/badges?

 

[ozzmonaut]

I have a tank that appears that it would fit it, and I was told that the tank was from a CWC, but that could encompass a few different brand names. The screws could have been changed at some point as well. I actually had a mead frame that looked almost identical to that. It would be nice if you had the original crank to help identify it.

 

[bud poe]

It's not so much the actual screws that I was referring to but the threaded section of the rear dropout, that style is different from a lot of other bikes you see from that period. I never looked at a Mead up close though, and yeah knowing it was the original crank would help...Post a pic of your tank Ozz w/ dim's, maybe that will help narrow it down....

 

[redline1968]

yes I would like to see the tank also. I'm still confused on it. I have a mead and the rear drops are different. I compared it with the rollfast and hawthorne ,elgin, harley. still nothing. ivers? I'll look closely at the 24" ivers that i have. also at the neck for the tell tale 3 screws.

 

[RMS37]

Whatever the tank is it is not Cleveland Welding. They never produced a Moto type frame or Moto type toolbox tank, first entering bike production in late 1935 with a line of basic streamlined Camelback and Double-Bar Roadster frames with fully curved top tubes.

 

[bricycle]

...I'm thinking mid-late '20's Elgin Red Bird or red something....

 

[Talewinds]

It's not so much the actual screws that I was referring to but the threaded section of the rear dropout, that style is different from a lot of other bikes you see from that period. I never looked at a Mead up close though, and yeah knowing it was the original crank would help...Post a pic of your tank Ozz w/ dim's, maybe that will help narrow it down....

You're right about the threaded area of the dropout adjusters. I spent hours and hours and hours last month looking at seemingly every motorbike on the net trying to identify one I've got. Those adjuster-threaded-mount-hole-things are different than everything I've seen, there are only about 3 common types.

 

[prewarfan]

Isn't that a Rollfast Harris etc...crank?

 

[redline1968]

I thought its was a hawthorne crank.