G519 COLUMBIA MG 14197A


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blackcat

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Apr 4, 2017
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I started the restoration of my G519 COLUMBIA MG 14197A found in December 2004 in Normandy.
Disassembly was relatively easy, on the other hand very big work on the rear part of the frame which underwent the assaults of time.
Found in Normandy 2 years ago a pair of fendres WESTFIELD, redo the truss bars and the lower truss bracket.
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Serge
 
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izee2

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Pittston, PA
#4
Great find and good luck on the restoration.
I do have to question the serial number might not be MG but perhaps a MC version. I do not believe there are any other examples with a MG followed by 5 digits and the letter A. That combo is only shown with the MC serial numbered bikes. All of which start MC 14***A . And they are a rare bike. I believe there are about 4 known.
Just something that you might like to check into. Have to get a few of our in house experts to have another look at this.
Tom



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Mercian

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Great find and good luck on the restoration.
I do have to question the serial number might not be MG but perhaps a MC version. I do not believe there are any other examples with a MG followed by 5 digits and the letter A. That combo is only shown with the MC serial numbered bikes. All of which start MC 14***A . And they are a rare bike. I believe there are about 4 known.
Just something that you might like to check into. Have to get a few of our in house experts to have another look at this.
Tom
Hi Serge,

I agree with Tom. It would be worth checking if that is a C or a G.

If it is an MC, then there are currently four known MC bicycles with the MC14***A format, all dated L1, and a fifth using the earlier numbering system. So these account for less than 10% of known G519 bikes.

If it was an MG, that would make it the latest known Army example.

Best Regards,

Adrian
 

blackcat

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Apr 4, 2017
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#6
Dear Serge,
You lucky guy!
Even if there is a lot of work, this is fantastic to bring this bike back to life. Please keep posting elements of your renovation!
Bien cordialement
Hello tango021;
I'm not a lucky guy, it's just falling at the right time that's all.Do not worry, i continue to give news of the restoration.

For bozman: thank you.
Save a piece of history, yes.
But for my part, also a duty of memory.

Return of the sanding of the frame with some small repairs.Then, passage to the antirust with other pieces found.
Serge
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blackcat

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 4, 2017
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Le Raincy, France
#7
Hi Serge,

I agree with Tom. It would be worth checking if that is a C or a G.

If it is an MC, then there are currently four known MC bicycles with the MC14***A format, all dated L1, and a fifth using the earlier numbering system. So these account for less than 10% of known G519 bikes.

If it was an MG, that would make it the latest known Army example.

Best Regards,

Adrian
Hello Adrian, izee2;

Ihave just contacted contact with the person who sold me.
In the end, it was found towards BOURGES in central France and not in Normandy.
On n°, i no longer see the C to causse bad stamping and stong corrosion.
The MG to a side kikstand and the MC to a rear kickstand.
On my frame, i noticed the tightening marks of the side kicstand; i paused the upper part of the kicstand, it's fits perfectly.
So for me i board for a MG and it is in front of 429 n°, before the MC141625A and not between the MC14625A to MC14643A.
What do you think?
Serge
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izee2

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Serge,
I’ve been looking at the original pic of the serial number and it’s driving me crazy. I’m still leaning as the bike being an MC model. The only things separating the frames on the MG and The MC is that serial number. Otherwise They are all the same! The fenders, stands could have been switched over and over again. Because of the markings on the frame I do believe yours had a side stand but that could have been added at any time. I have a Columbia MG that came with Huffman fenders and wheel set. Korea era paint and a lot of repairs. I call it my motor pool bike. They did what was needed to keep them running with the parts available.
Is there any original overspray inside the head tube or B.B. that is still noticeable?
Like Adrian said if the bike is an MG it is the latest know model if it’s an MC it’s the earliest known serial number.
Do u have any other pics of the number before it was primed?
No matter what it is the fact that your bringing it back from the dead is awesome!! Keep us posted.
Tom


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blackcat

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Hello Tom;
I understand you perfectly and i appreciate your interest in my restoration.
The only layer of paint still visible is that of the OD color handlebar as my original kikstand, no forrest green.
I stripped the frame number, i can not do better, sorry.
How could an MC have come to Europe?
Used by NAVY? On a port basis?
The Marines did not come to France except those participed in the D-DAY (quartered on the cuirassiers, but not landed).
MC or MG, i am very happy to revive it !
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blackcat

Finally riding a big boys bike
Apr 4, 2017
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Le Raincy, France
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Hello;
After a while on standby on my restoration ( i started restoring my women G519 M306).
I was contacted by a friend in France to show me his Chrismas present, and what was my surprise seeing his serial number: the MG 14220A, WOW 23 numbers after mine.
So, my G519 is a MG 14197A.
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I also noticed that this series MG xxxxxA , the chainrings were all coffins.
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Cheers;
Serge
 
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blackcat

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Hello;
Small step forward but a big step for me, a beautiful pair of G519 36-10 wheels with a nice M4 on the rear wheel that fits perfectly to my MG.
I unveiled the wheels and soon sandblasted.
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Cheers;
Serge
 
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blackcat

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Hello;
Recovery on the restoration of MG for 3 weeks.
Since there is nothing on TV in the evening, i redrew arm clips #124 , one of which i missed with strapping pallets.
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Then, i undertook the restoration of pedals, making wooden blocks by myself (i am a carpenter, it helps).
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Regards;
Serge
 
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Tomato John

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Hello;
Recovery on the restoration of MG for 3 weeks.
Since there is nothing on TV in the evening, i redrew arm clips #124 , one of which i missed with strapping pallets. View attachment 995369
Then, i undertook the restoration of pedals, making wooden blocks by myself (i am a carpenter, it helps). View attachment 995374
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Hello;
I start to see the end, now reassembly WOW! :smilecat: View attachment 996848

Regards;
Serge
Wow! That’s pretty sweet! Nice work.
 
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