Gramp’s 1941 New World - Trying to get it running as a rat rod bike


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Andrew Gorman

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The clip on lenses really do a great job! The lower quality bearing cages are probably made to match the New Departure parts, but not made by them. I thought I saw a W stamped somewhere, which would mean Wald who make all kinds of bike replacement parts.
 
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Miq

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Cleaned up the Torrington 8 pedals over the last few days. SKPC was able to send me a right side pedal axle to replace the brazed/cut one that came with the bike. Much thanks SKPC!!!!
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Cleaned some silver spray paint off the blocks using lacquer thinner. You need to be very careful with the thinner on the blocks since the surface of the block starts to quickly dissolve. I got the paint off and dunked the block into a bucket of water to stop it from getting any more dissolved. It's not as bad as it sounds if you're careful, and after some "interior spray" they look pretty good for how ratty they started. The blocks all spin freely and so does the pedal on the crank. These are great pedals!
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Miq

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Built up the front hub with new balls in the old cages and the NOS cones and axle. Got the Kenda tires to seat in the rims and the wheel spins surprisingly well.
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GTs58

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I cracked up looking at the BS on the bottle of ArmorAll. GREASE FREE FORMULA! Who are they trying to kid! LMAO
 

Miq

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Much appreciated rustjunkie! I got a NOS spring this week and put together the coaster yesterday. Popped all new balls into the original cages, and reassembled my alternating oil soaked discs.
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I cleaned the splot of grease on the hub. :)
 
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Miq

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Put the Kenda tire and tube and spoke tape in the rear wheel too.
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Put the whole rear wheel assembly on the frame and built up the bottom bracket with all new bearings and reinstalled the chain and Miller kickstand. The wheel spins when I crank the pedals and the coaster brake works fine (no load on it yet really) when I spin the crank backwards.

I need to visit my buddy with wheel building tools and get the wheels/spokes sorted out. And also still need to straighten the fork and steering tube. Hoping that will happen this weekend at another friend's workshop.

There are a couple of other things I want to address before I put it all together.
 
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Miq

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I know the Monogram S seat that Gramp's put on the bike is likely from the 60's. I'm not super interested in getting an expensive prewar saddle so I'm gonna rock it for now.

I've been checking out the handlebar/grips/stem to see if I could identify them in the 1940 Parts Catalog. All the advertising says this bike should have a "Boy Scout" handlebar.
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I found that in the catalog part number 795:
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The stem has the Wald stamp on it I think:
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It's hard to see in the pic above but below the W is the number 3 sideways. This corresponds to info on the 1940 catalog page with the stems. Wald #3 is "photo" #403
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Part Number 860:
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I originally thought the grips were not original. After looking at some other pics of vintage New Worlds and finding the "Black Finger Grip" Photo #422 part number 822 in the catalog. I'm pretty sure they are original. Wish they didn't feel like stone.
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422 - Flat end with three finger ridges.
 

GTs58

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I'm no expert on these models, but your stem, bars and grips seem to be the most prevalent type that I've seen on these prewar lightweights. The boy scout bars seems to be the least popular judging from what's still around today. Schwinn always stated you could equip these lightweights just about any way you wanted, at extra cost. Here's a nice original girls 41 if you haven't come across this thread yet. Probably the only one I can remember seeing with the boy scout bars.
https://thecabe.com/forum/threads/‘41-schwinn-bfg-new-world.132408/
 

Miq

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@GTs58 thanks for pointing me to that thread! I can't believe how well preserved that bike is. Even the saddle is like new. I hope someone is giving that bike the love it deserved. It looks like it has been ignored for the past 78 years. :)

So if the girls bike in the thread above has the "boy scout" style bars, what is the name of the more common bar style used on my Gramp's bike? Is it just "World" handlebars?

The boy scout bars look like they make a 90 degree bend when they drop.
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The more common World bars have an organic curve that looks different from every angle and changes as the bars are adjusted.
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The grips are interesting. I see them both ways in the 1941 advertising.
Here's the ball end grips on the boy scout bar:
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But here's Rita Hayworth with her New World with the curved World bars and black finger grips:
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This page shows the "World" bars called out. Grips are the ball end ones though...
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GTs58

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The bars on Gramp's bike look the same as the bars I have on my 1955 Corvette, at least the bends and rise do. I've seen some lit where Schwinn called them "latest Continental type, reversible for drop bar position", but I've been calling them Tourist.

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You have typical Schwinn oval grips, listed as Part #7167 in the catalog above. Pretty common grips starting mid-1940.
 
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Miq

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@GTs58 @rollfaster Thanks guys! I like the idea of calling them World Tourist handlebars, makes sense.

@Autocycleplane Thanks for the correction. It's not totally clear since the 7167 part number is not associates with any "photo" in the catalog. Schwinn Oval is a fitting term. Nice.
 

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