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ozzmonaut

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Jan 26, 2011
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Well, I come across many of those prewar Schwinn badges and I'm curious what the rarity of each is and maybe what level of bike they would be attached to. It seems like the high-end models used more of certain badges and the economy models used others. Here's how I place it so far as I can see. With 1 being rarest and most desirable. Everybody please chime in with your thoughts and we'll see how it stacks up.
1) Excelsior
2)Henderson
3)Lincoln
4)Admiral
5)ACE
6)Majestic
7)Century
8)Plains, Trains
I'm basing some of this also on how often you see originals up for sale, although lately I see a few Excelsiors for sale and no Lincolns. Although I just let a very nice Lincoln go on a basically complete bike and probably sold the bike for what the badge was worth. But I didn't want to split up the bike.
 

ozzmonaut

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jan 26, 2011
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So I guess there's not much information or knowledge out there on these. Maybe just give some ideas based on personal experience as I did?
 

SJ_BIKER

Riding a '38 Autocycle Deluxe
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err i forgot

to mention Mission, American Beauty, Goodrich, Pullman, MEAD, even ones that said autocycle
 
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SJ_BIKER

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ohh

The World, Lasalle, Fleet, Electric, Cadillac, spitfire...Northwest Patrol schwinn seems to be the rarest to me...
 

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ozzmonaut

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jan 26, 2011
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umm i dont see Chicago Supply Liberty up in your chart sir...
That's kind of the point. I doubt there's enough room in 10 posts for all of the badges ever used on Schwinns. However, Liberty and Cadillac seem to be ones that I see quite often. Northwest Patrol probably is the rarest. I've only seen a handful of originals available. I see tons of Electrics and a few of the others. I'm hoping to find out if there was a connection between the less-used badges and the level of the bike. Since the hardware company badges seem to have been used on several bikes that that company sold, it seems like there wouldn't be much connection there. E-Z speed seemed to be used on a specific bike. As though the bike model name itself was E-Z Speed. I could be wrong though. I wonder if Schwinn had a set of guidelines as far as what bikes got what kind of badge. Like "All of this particular run of deluxe-model straightbar tankers will get Excelsior" or "These bare-bones DX models get Majestic badges" Or did they just have buckets of mixed badges they would reach into , grab one and screw it to the bike? The latter seems hard to believe but I'm sure somebody here will know.
 

ozzmonaut

Wore out three sets of tires already!
Jan 26, 2011
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to mention Mission, American Beauty, Goodrich, Pullman, MEAD, even ones that said autocycle
Were MEAD badges on Schwinns? I thought MEAD just contracted out certain work to Schwinn. Like framesets and certain parts. I have a MEAD that looks identical to a Schwinn B10-E, but I just assumed Schwinn made them for Mead and Mead did what they wanted with them.
 

vintage2wheel

I live for the CABE
Nov 21, 2011
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listed

the ones you listed i would say more rare then the others is century and lincoln but there are so many rare badges out there

i listed some of mine below and that does not even touch whats out there... there were 297 that were known that schwinn used from what i was told but who really knows

packard badge.JPG


ctribune badge.JPG


ezlincoln.JPG


nbadge1.JPG


nbade2.JPG


badges.JPG


NW patrol.jpg
 
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bricycle

I'm the Wiz, and nobody beats me!
Nov 18, 2009
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So I guess there's not much information or knowledge out there on these. Maybe just give some ideas based on personal experience as I did?
Depends how pre-war you are talking...there were Henderson X and Excelsior X badges that were about 1 3/4" square that are pretty valuable.....bri.
 

ohdeebee

Cruisin' on my Bluebird
Mar 4, 2010
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Here is the rarest Schwinn badge that I own. I have and have had several, Ace, Lincoln, Liberty, Century, etc. I think those are the most common of the prewar era and seem to have been used on a national level.

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schwinndoggy

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From what I understood about Schwinn badges is Schwinn would make a bike for a supplier, hardware store or auto tire dealer. Each badged bike could/would be different based on wants/needs of the contractng company. I don't think you can judge model or factory upgrades based on the name on the Badge. Northwest patrol is the rarest I know of. Although, Greens07 is one I have never seen.
 

SJ_BIKER

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Were MEAD badges on Schwinns? I thought MEAD just contracted out certain work to Schwinn. Like framesets and certain parts. I have a MEAD that looks identical to a Schwinn B10-E, but I just assumed Schwinn made them for Mead and Mead did what they wanted with them.
NOT SURE BUT MEAD RANGERS ARE BAD@SS schwinn bikes ....color and parts choice(s) makes them set apart from the run of the mill. In the end they were schwinn made bikes....
 

Autocycleplane

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Jan 6, 2010
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I still can't believe my NW Patrol sold for over $600 on ebay in late 2008, the thick of the recession meltdown.

Crazy thing is it was on a crushed girls bike I bought for it's intact locking fork for $40. Couldn't even see the badge type under all of the house paint until I got home and cleaned it off to see what it was! Score!

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