Help ID Headbadge for frame?

[GD5877]

I picked what I thought was a 1947 Rollfast recently. S/N stamped on bottom bracket is 74 EH. I got a badge seperately on eBay and it has the holes drilled at roughly 1.4” but the frame’s head badge holes are only 1.225.”

From what I can tell, the Rollfast “bullseye” badge appears to have the same hole spacing as the style I have, which leads me to believe that this may not be a Rollfast frame.

Does anyone know what other head badges would fit on this frame?

FRAME:

BADGE STYLE:

Thanks!!

 

[Archie Sturmer]

So the EH part of the date-place code might indicate the Excelsior-Hawthorne plant that Snyder acquired.
The more western factory was closer to and had less shipping costs to midwestern cities like Chicago, where Montgomery Ward was based.
My 74EH came with a Hawthorne badge, similar to below.

Not sure if holes are different or same as Rollfast.
And then there is also, Marshall Wells, Duluth Minn., Zenith.

And there may be many others.

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

I have what appears to be the same frame , I was under the impression mine was a Snyder built Wards Hawthorn. The badge I bought the screw holes were not wide enough. What is the shape of the rear fender mount? Arched with a flat top? The way the top bar almost finishes at the top of head tube the head tubw does not extend much above the bar. That is the same on mine. Maybe we cam both solve a mystery. I can get some pics of mine and badge later today.

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

Mine also has two mounting holes on the top bar for a directional switch

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

mine

 

[GD5877]

So the EH part of the date-place code might indicate the Excelsior-Hawthorne plant that Snyder acquired.
The more western factory was closer to and had less shipping costs to midwestern cities like Chicago, where Montgomery Ward was based.
My 74EH came with a Hawthorne badge, similar to below.
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Not sure if holes are different or same as Rollfast.
And then there is also, Marshall Wells, Duluth Minn., Zenith.
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And there may be many others.

What is the spacing between the holes on the Zenith badge? Thanks!

 

[GD5877]

I have what appears to be the same frame , I was under the impression mine was a Snyder built Wards Hawthorn. The badge I bought the screw holes were not wide enough. What is the shape of the rear fender mount? Arched with a flat top? The way the top bar almost finishes at the top of head tube the head tubw does not extend much above the bar. That is the same on mine. Maybe we cam both solve a mystery. I can get some pics of mine and badge later today.

 

[SKPC]

@coasterbrakejunkie1969 Yours is a 50's Snyder with rack mounts on the drops and unique seat stay fender mount. See mine below that also has switch holes on the top tube...It also has black paint with red head and white pins.
@GD5877 Your frame may be from another factory? Snyder though for sure? CWC?

 

[GD5877]

@coasterbrakejunkie1969 Yours is a 50's Snyder with rack mounts on the drops and unique seat stay fender mount. See mine below that also has switch holes on the top tube Mine is also black with red head and white pins.
@GD5877 Your frame may be from another factory? Snyder though for sure.
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That's a cool lookin' bike !!

 

[coasterbrakejunkie1969]

My rollfast badge fit and the Wards Hawthorn did not. Im not sure if you measured like this but my Hawthorn measures 1.5 inches. The rollfast is slightly bigger.