MOTOmike
Finally riding a big boys bike
What a Find!!!
You are very lucky to have "found" these bikes.
I do not know much about bike #1 (looks 1890's-ish to me), but I do know enough to say that this is the kind of bike you would see in a museum.
For the Iver Johnson, with the exception of the seat missing, it does look to be complete and original, including the pedals (my opinion). If you provide the six digit serial number (likely located on the frame near the seat post), the year of manufacture can probably be tied down to within a year, give or take one year. Because the seat is missing, I would place a value of $950 to $1,150 on bike #2 if everything is straight and there is no serious damage.
Mike
You are very lucky to have "found" these bikes.
I do not know much about bike #1 (looks 1890's-ish to me), but I do know enough to say that this is the kind of bike you would see in a museum.
For the Iver Johnson, with the exception of the seat missing, it does look to be complete and original, including the pedals (my opinion). If you provide the six digit serial number (likely located on the frame near the seat post), the year of manufacture can probably be tied down to within a year, give or take one year. Because the seat is missing, I would place a value of $950 to $1,150 on bike #2 if everything is straight and there is no serious damage.
Mike