Help identifying the year and possibly the model

[AS-1]

@AS-1 - correct. It has the tapered "pencil" parking stand, the thin truss rods, drop-center rims and the serial # B06439. It has characteristics of an early post-war Schwinn, but I do not know the date of manufacture.

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Thank you!

 

[GTs58]

The red one doesn't match. Note the inside scroll on the bottom of the S.

Dr., when you say c. 1946 are you saying you don't know the exact date of manufacture?

The red New World is a prewar built bike and it seems that decal was just a wee bit different than the postwar issue. Also, nobody knows the exact date a Schwinn was manufactured until 1976 when that exact date was stamped on the head badge.

 

[Oilit]

Are you saying that you have a picture plus specifications of the W19 in the 1951 Schwinn Dealers Catalog?

No pictures. The only information I have is the accessories included in the 1951 price list on the Waterford Bicycles web site. I was looking for information on a Schwinn on Facebook Marketplace and the consensus was that it was possibly what was left of a World Traveler Clubman but it sold before I could go see it. Schwinn advertisements for the pre-war New Worlds stated "Schwinn-Built Paramount and Superior parts may be substituted at small additional cost", so I suspect that you could special order a derailleur from the factory, and that seems even more likely for the Continental, but with the factory records before 1948 "destroyed in a fire" I assumed there was no way to know for sure. @HerrOtto's bike is a beautiful survivor regardless. But if you can find evidence that the derailleur is OEM, that will be a first as far as I know.

Anybody know what this was originally? | Lightweight Schwinn Bicycles

I've been looking at this old Schwinn lightweight with an odd derailleur bracket. The seller lists it as a Schwinn New World, but I'm thinking maybe an early Continental? I'll post the serial if I get it from the seller.

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https://waterfordbikes.com/SchwinnCat/flschwinn_1951_1960/1951_mdls2.html

 

[SirMike1983]

The red "Schwinn" graphic after clean up on the 1941 bike.

 

[rennfaron]

@SirMike1983 thanks for that update. Looks even more similar now.

 

[HerrOtto]

I think all 3 are the same, just different stages of wear.

 

[AS-1]

I think all 3 are the same, just different stages of wear.

You are absolutely correct! They look the same to me now. Thank you, Sir Mike!

 

[Schwinn Sales West]

The red New World is a prewar built bike and it seems that decal was just a wee bit different than the postwar issue. Also, nobody knows the exact date a Schwinn was manufactured until 1976 when that exact date was stamped on the head badge.

I think the problem with the "Red Photo" is that it was taken at an angle and the photo is distorted? The other two comparison photos are from a "straight on" view. A lot of the gold leaf is missing from the decal on the red bike. which makes it even harder to get a good comparison. Not certain the decal is actually different, or just damaged?

John

 

[SirMike1983]

To my eye, they look the same but just different wear. Also the red bike having red paint, the outline of the decal may look different or smaller due to blending in more than on a blue or white surface.

 

[rennfaron]

@Schwinn Sales West John, any information about why it seems all the planes and trains badged bikes got these simple script decals? I have no background on the planes and trains badge other than reading that it was used as early as 1938 and someone commented that that decal type ended in 1949. I read that if you had a certain amount of sales a dealer could make their own "Schwinn" badge design. Was this factory or a dealer thing (or a regional thing)?

Edit - The unique badge and decals feels very "jobber" to me, like a BFG or ChiCyCo (Chicago Cycle Supply Co) where they had their own badges and decals, but on a Schwinn. However, this being a planes and trains "SCHWINN" badge and decal seems—and probably is—factory.